Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Fay - Jun 02, 2009 8:44:38 am PDT #11735 of 30000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Were I ever to get married, then I'm very fond of the notion of being married in Vegas by an Elvis impersonator.


beth b - Jun 02, 2009 8:45:09 am PDT #11736 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I have a great backyard for weddings ....


smonster - Jun 02, 2009 8:45:32 am PDT #11737 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Kristin, what a bummer. Good luck.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 02, 2009 8:45:41 am PDT #11738 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Best of luck dealing with family expectations, Kristin. I can relate. We're having an exceptionally small ceremony until we can figure out what we want in terms of something that includes others - whether a party, or a 'blessing', or what - which we might not get round to for a good while yet. Our family situation is complicated, but we're now finally managing to persuade them that they won't be missing out. I agree with the idea of having a short engagement - always a good idea!

Word-order edit.


Nora Deirdre - Jun 02, 2009 8:48:01 am PDT #11739 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

It involves telling people after you elope, as always.

Heh, yep.

We did get officially engaged and then just (very firmly) never discussed when or where the wedding would be, it faded from the limelight. It was only about 7 months between the engagement and the elopement as well. We'd have done it much sooner if I was able to get away from work in May.

We were lucky that we didn't have too much pushiness from family and friends, and we were able to effectively prepare everyone for what was happening without actually communicate the plans. This is not always the case, I know.


WindSparrow - Jun 02, 2009 8:54:47 am PDT #11740 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I found the mansicle disturbing.

sj, I love that photo of Maia and Zachary.

Sorry to hear that the in-laws are beginning to act like out-laws, Kristin.


JZ - Jun 02, 2009 8:59:05 am PDT #11741 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I must be a complete outlier in having loved our big-ass wedding (especially the part where I started crying and then Hec started crying and then everyone started crying. Runny noses everywhere! That was awesome.).

If you're not me, though (and clearly you are not, else both ND and Hec are in for a big surprise one of these days), then I endorse the elope-right-away, let-them-fuss-over-the-party-later-on plan. If you're very lucky, you could end up being like my brother and brother-in-law, whose big party ended up getting delayed by nearly half a decade, at which point all the families were just happy that anything was happening at all.

Just don't stint on the cake. Cake is key.

Also, I strongly endorse the corset dress option (not least because you'll have to come up to SF at least a couple of times for fittings).


Aims - Jun 02, 2009 9:00:20 am PDT #11742 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

JZ - I loved my big wedding, too. It was awesome and fun and a total blast. And plannig it from 2500 miles away made for very little family input. Woohoo!!


Nora Deirdre - Jun 02, 2009 9:05:14 am PDT #11743 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

t I insert my standard disclaimer that while elopement was awesome for me, I know many people who have loved the celebration and I am not bagging on it.

No outliers when it comes to weddings! Do what makes you happy!


beth b - Jun 02, 2009 9:06:18 am PDT #11744 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

big weddings are for some, but it is up to the couple. I get the whole family/ village celebration. But it can be truly crazy making as well. I think adults get to make that decision