You're a bloody puppet! You're a wee little puppet man!

Spike ,'Smile Time'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Nora Deirdre - Jun 02, 2009 8:40:09 am PDT #11730 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

And so begins pressure from ND's sister to include the family at the ceremony (which we're planning to do very privately for a number of important reasons). The opening ploy involved evoking guilt about how depressed his mom is.

Sorry, Kristin- I know that's gotta be tough. Makes me want to say, "thank you for making me regret my decision to share my happy news with you!"

I guess just be firm, consistent, and stick to the script. Hope it doesn't get under ND's skin too much.

I'm sure you guys expected something like this, but it still sucks to have to deal with it.

My suggestion: short engagement- do the deed the way you want to as soon as is feasible, this cuts down on the length of nagging time before the event!


-t - Jun 02, 2009 8:40:59 am PDT #11731 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Nora is smart.


beth b - Jun 02, 2009 8:41:11 am PDT #11732 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

ha . Vegas baby!

seriously, once we started inviting people we couldn't figure out how not to invite people. ( though I had an idea -- I was going to have the wedding at the end of hike -- but Matt wouldn't go for it) So vegas was it


amych - Jun 02, 2009 8:42:42 am PDT #11733 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think you can probably guess my suggestion. (It involves telling people after you elope, as always.)


Nora Deirdre - Jun 02, 2009 8:43:54 am PDT #11734 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Yeah, we also explored having a very few loved ones at our wedding, but really, you can't invite some and not others. At least with a full out total elopement, everyone is dissed equally!

I say you guys come out to Vermont and get married at Teppy's brother's brewpub.

... Oh wait, I'm projecting a little there.


Fay - Jun 02, 2009 8:44:38 am PDT #11735 of 30000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Were I ever to get married, then I'm very fond of the notion of being married in Vegas by an Elvis impersonator.


beth b - Jun 02, 2009 8:45:09 am PDT #11736 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I have a great backyard for weddings ....


smonster - Jun 02, 2009 8:45:32 am PDT #11737 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Kristin, what a bummer. Good luck.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 02, 2009 8:45:41 am PDT #11738 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Best of luck dealing with family expectations, Kristin. I can relate. We're having an exceptionally small ceremony until we can figure out what we want in terms of something that includes others - whether a party, or a 'blessing', or what - which we might not get round to for a good while yet. Our family situation is complicated, but we're now finally managing to persuade them that they won't be missing out. I agree with the idea of having a short engagement - always a good idea!

Word-order edit.


Nora Deirdre - Jun 02, 2009 8:48:01 am PDT #11739 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

It involves telling people after you elope, as always.

Heh, yep.

We did get officially engaged and then just (very firmly) never discussed when or where the wedding would be, it faded from the limelight. It was only about 7 months between the engagement and the elopement as well. We'd have done it much sooner if I was able to get away from work in May.

We were lucky that we didn't have too much pushiness from family and friends, and we were able to effectively prepare everyone for what was happening without actually communicate the plans. This is not always the case, I know.