I don't like vampires. I'm gonna take a stand and say they're not good.

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Atropa - Dec 06, 2011 9:38:48 am PST #10114 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

sumi, thank you for reminding me about tack shops and dressage coats! I knew I was blanking on an obvious source. Now to search eBay for "dressage jacket" ...

ita !, isn't that style of coat just so sharp? They go with damn near everything.

I did discover that the J. Peterman company has made a black cotton velveteen version of my beloved red ringmaster/dressage jacket, so once I call the helpful customer service line and get some info about actual garment measurements, I'm ordering it. Because it is December, and I cannot wear my red ringmaster blazer and a top hat without many people asking where I'm caroling.


Toddson - Dec 06, 2011 9:43:22 am PST #10115 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

At one of the discount stores I frequent I found a jacket (from Talbot's - the local store closed and a lot of their stuff ended up in this store). It was a rust/wine colored corduroy, cut like the ringmaster/shadbelly coat, double-breasted with tails. Of course I had to try it on ... and looked terrible. ah well ....


Atropa - Dec 06, 2011 9:47:23 am PST #10116 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Of course I had to try it on ... and looked terrible. ah well ....

I hate when that happens. Or finding the perfect garment at a thrift store, but it's two sizes too small.


DavidS - Dec 06, 2011 9:51:24 am PST #10117 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Whoa, the Marlins just offered Pujols a ten year deal worth more than $200 million.

Reyes, Pujols, Hanley, Mike Stanton...Sheesh, that would be an insane lineup.


Kate P. - Dec 06, 2011 9:56:14 am PST #10118 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

OK people, I have an issue that I need some help resolving.

--My mother wants to throw us a baby shower, which is obviously a wonderful and very generous thing. But she wants us to travel up to Massachusetts for it, in February, when I will be 7 months pregnant.

--M does not want to go, for various reasons: (1) He's a nervous flier, and it's a long trip, in potentially bad weather; (2) it's twice as expensive if we both go; (3) I think he's a little uncomfortable with the whole notion of going to a baby shower, which is traditionally just for women.

--For that matter, I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the idea of a baby shower. I'm all for seeing friends and for people giving us gifts if they feel so inclined, but I think many people will probably give us something even if we don't have a shower, and I don't know how I would decide who to invite. Just women? Just my friends, and not M's? None of my friends had baby showers (or bridal showers, for that matter), and it's not a ritual I feel any particular attachment to. Plus, we just saw lots of people at our wedding last year and many of them gave us lovely gifts then; I feel weird asking them for more gifts now.

--I *love* going back to MA, but it would have to be such a short trip that I think it would be more tiring/stressful/frustrating than joyful. I would really like to save up all my personal/vacation time next year for after the baby comes, so I'd be flying up late on a Friday night and then spending much of Sunday coming back.

I've come up with a few alternatives (having a mini-shower via Skype with a few family friends, or having a post-baby shower when we come up again in June of next year), but I really don't think any of them will fly with my mother. I know how badly she wants to do this for us. I just don't actually want it. But she will be SO disappointed if I tell her that.

So. What should I do? Suggest alternatives to my mother, and hope she eventually comes around and forgives me for not wanting the full baby shower? Or suck it up and just be grateful that she is so happy for us and wants to do this really nice thing for us?


sumi - Dec 06, 2011 9:59:20 am PST #10119 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Teacher removes the word "gay" from "Deck the Halls and outrages parents.


brenda m - Dec 06, 2011 10:01:40 am PST #10120 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Are you going up there at all over the holidays? I assume not. The June thing sounds like the best idea, really. But I don't know about convincing your mother.


meara - Dec 06, 2011 10:02:20 am PST #10121 of 30001

Kate, I think not wanting to travel when you're 7 months pregnant should be a totally valid reason to just say no. Yeesh! Airplane travel is annoying enough when you're not large and constantly needing a bathroom.


Theodosia - Dec 06, 2011 10:04:16 am PST #10122 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'd vote for post-baby shower, where you aren't so time constrained assuming you'll be taking time off work anyway. And maybe drive in easy stages? But sooner than June to appease Mom.


Kate P. - Dec 06, 2011 10:07:24 am PST #10123 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

brenda, we were just there for Thanksgiving, and we'll see my parents again at Christmas; they're coming down to Oklahoma City to spend the holiday with us and M's family.

Airplane travel is annoying enough when you're not large and constantly needing a bathroom.

Yeah, and I have flown a lot lately! To LA to see my brother in October; to Philly for my cousin's wedding in November; to MA for Thanksgiving; and then in a few weeks, to OKC. And it is much more tiring than before I got pregnant.