I've been on some non-dates, and if meeting a potential future wife counts as a date, I've done that a couple times, but otherwise, I haven't really been on a date, per se.

Sean and Omnis, I totally feel ya. My advice, for what it's worth, comes from my four dateless years after my marriage broke up. I also did not know how to date, what to say, and i was in my 30s, when everyone else was already paired up. Also, I was pretty certain I was the fugliest woman on earth. That dating shit is HJARD.

My best advice is to get out of your present orbit as much as you can. Although I hate parties, i made a vow to go to every party i was invited to, whether it was a person holding it or an organization. It mostly sucked. The worst by far is one i went to with my BFF (much who is charming and MUCH prettier than me IMO), where she went home with SEVEN phone numbers from guys and I had,,,, none. But I practiced chit chat at each of them. Foolproof line: "How do you know {the Host}?" I met jason at such a party, so it was worth all the cringiness of the previous four years.

Aw, Barb. That's sweet. Thanks.

omnis, my brother. You know what stings the worst? When I see ugly dickholes with women who deserve better. Your crutches have nothing to do with the injustice of you being single.

Okay, shutting up now.

I know. The thing is, as my therapist used to tell me, it only takes one You just have to keep trying until you meet that one who DOESN'T fizzle. There wlll be a lot who will fizzle and it will hurt every time, but all that means is that they are not right for you. It's not a judgment on you at all.

The thing is, as my therapist used to tell me, it only takes one You just have to keep trying until you meet that one who DOESN'T fizzle. There wlll be a lot who will fizzle and it will hurt every time, but all that means is that they are not right for you. It's not a judgment on you at all.

Thank's, Scrappy. Didn't mean to edit myself out on you, sorry. It's good advice, worth preserving. And reading aloud to myself every day.

Does it help to know that two friends of mine just got married. He's 60 she is slightly older than that . She had a bad marriage and raised 2.5 kids on her own ( point 5 is a girl that she becam a mother to when the girl was in her late teens) He was married, but living a lonely separate life. ( Remember loneliness is not just for singles). He met B after he had left his wife After at least 10 years of being alone. And in a place where he could do nothing about it.

Remember loneliness is not just for singles

This one I know all too well. At least part of my current blues stems from having been lonely for quite a bit longer than I've actually been single.

Congraduations Aimee!

Hippo Birdies Vortex!

So sorry, bunky. I'm doing that shit right now AIF...well, awful, really.