If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

Book ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Barb - May 17, 2009 7:43:27 am PDT #9987 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

so maybe I just need to shut the fuck up and deal.

No, you so don't. If there's anything guaranteed to send off to a ranty place is this idea that just because by some standard we're doing okay, then we have no right to bemoan the things that bring us misery.

And Sean, this is a pretty big thing. You're abso-freakin'-lutely allowed to rail at the fates about it. For my part, and maybe this is going to sound bizarre, I admire those of you who have managed to fashion successful, independent lives. I've been with Lewis since I was twenty-one-- I almost don't know how to be an adult without him by my side. I shudder to think what might have happened to me if I hadn't met him-- I'd like to think I would have had the guts to become a normal, functioning member of society, forging my independent identity, but my family history suggests I would have been guilt-tripped into going back home, living with my mother and becoming an embittered old spinster, like scores of women in my family.

So yeah, I applaud you guys and light candles and hope fervently that you'll find the perfect someones for yourselves because you deserve them.

Okay, I'll step off my ranty-box now. Sorry.


Sean K - May 17, 2009 7:47:32 am PDT #9988 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And I hate dating/trying to find available women, like I hate job interviews - I'm not very good at it. It involves a set of skills I don't possess and haven't learned despite twenty years of my best efforts. And like job interviews, the required set of skills is not the same set of skills you will need later for the job or relationship in question.

God, just shut the fuck up, Sean.


Barb - May 17, 2009 7:51:09 am PDT #9989 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

I've never actually been on a date. The concept terrifies me.


Polter-Cow - May 17, 2009 7:59:08 am PDT #9990 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I've been on some non-dates, and if meeting a potential future wife counts as a date, I've done that a couple times, but otherwise, I haven't really been on a date, per se.


Scrappy - May 17, 2009 8:03:37 am PDT #9991 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Sean and Omnis, I totally feel ya. My advice, for what it's worth, comes from my four dateless years after my marriage broke up. I also did not know how to date, what to say, and i was in my 30s, when everyone else was already paired up. Also, I was pretty certain I was the fugliest woman on earth. That dating shit is HJARD.

My best advice is to get out of your present orbit as much as you can. Although I hate parties, i made a vow to go to every party i was invited to, whether it was a person holding it or an organization. It mostly sucked. The worst by far is one i went to with my BFF (much who is charming and MUCH prettier than me IMO), where she went home with SEVEN phone numbers from guys and I had,,,, none. But I practiced chit chat at each of them. Foolproof line: "How do you know {the Host}?" I met jason at such a party, so it was worth all the cringiness of the previous four years.


Sean K - May 17, 2009 8:07:24 am PDT #9992 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Aw, Barb. That's sweet. Thanks.

omnis, my brother. You know what stings the worst? When I see ugly dickholes with women who deserve better. Your crutches have nothing to do with the injustice of you being single.


Sean K - May 17, 2009 8:20:17 am PDT #9993 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, shutting up now.


Scrappy - May 17, 2009 8:24:19 am PDT #9994 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I know. The thing is, as my therapist used to tell me, it only takes one You just have to keep trying until you meet that one who DOESN'T fizzle. There wlll be a lot who will fizzle and it will hurt every time, but all that means is that they are not right for you. It's not a judgment on you at all.


Sean K - May 17, 2009 8:30:02 am PDT #9995 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The thing is, as my therapist used to tell me, it only takes one You just have to keep trying until you meet that one who DOESN'T fizzle. There wlll be a lot who will fizzle and it will hurt every time, but all that means is that they are not right for you. It's not a judgment on you at all.

Thank's, Scrappy. Didn't mean to edit myself out on you, sorry. It's good advice, worth preserving. And reading aloud to myself every day.


beth b - May 17, 2009 8:39:06 am PDT #9996 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Does it help to know that two friends of mine just got married. He's 60 she is slightly older than that . She had a bad marriage and raised 2.5 kids on her own ( point 5 is a girl that she becam a mother to when the girl was in her late teens) He was married, but living a lonely separate life. ( Remember loneliness is not just for singles). He met B after he had left his wife After at least 10 years of being alone. And in a place where he could do nothing about it.