If every vampire who said he was at the crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock.

Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


tiggy - Oct 26, 2009 6:10:43 am PDT #11459 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

there are some SYTYCD spoilers out there. i won't discuss here, but just know they are out there.


Jessica - Oct 26, 2009 6:26:39 am PDT #11460 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think it's mean to taunt people about their phobias, regardless of the situation. It makes my skin crawl the same way taunting someone about a disability would.

On a basketball court, there's a reasonable expectation that none of your fellow competitors have a crippling phobia of hoops. The situations are not comparable.


megan walker - Oct 26, 2009 6:48:29 am PDT #11461 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

It's just that I can't remember anyone mentioning it during eating or crawly things challenges and there has certainly been taunting there.

And, as I said, they really didn't see the extent of it.


Amy - Oct 26, 2009 6:50:37 am PDT #11462 of 23273
Because books.

I also didn't think it was so much *taunting*, per se. They weren't calling her names or belittling her. They were doing that fake concerned thing of, "Oh, don't do it if you're scared, honey."

Which is creepy patronizing anyway, but still.


Kathy A - Oct 26, 2009 6:54:51 am PDT #11463 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I liked watching the different approaches to rowing that little rubber dinghy--Big Easy's (what's his real name?) and the other guy's backstroke, Dad's using a kayak-style stroke, and the one guy's rather ineffectual rowing.

Mom was watching the end of the ep with me last night, and couldn't believe that Dad was the father of Pinky, partially because he looked a lot younger to her in his swim trunks, and partially because he was so much smaller than his son.


Theodosia - Oct 26, 2009 6:56:21 am PDT #11464 of 23273
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

They kept to the side of line that I'm comfortable with -- no personal taunts, no belittling her because she's a girl. (Whether they'd have done it if Canaan was the one who couldn't bring himself to go down the slide is another question, but completely hypothetically I do believe they would have.)

(Me, in retrospect I'd be: DAMN! I got TRASH-TALKED by a freakin' HARLEM GLOBETROTTER! How cool is that?)


le nubian - Oct 26, 2009 7:21:31 am PDT #11465 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

She was clearly very vulnerable, but the Globetrotters comments didn't bother me. My thing is, if Mika were a man, another Globetrotter for example, this is how they would have behaved. This is a high stakes competitive situation. Oh well.

Mika wasn't going to do, I think the other team picked up on this and decided to make a comment about it.


Jessica - Oct 26, 2009 7:22:30 am PDT #11466 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think if she'd been a man, their comments would have been less patronizing. The "Oh honey, I'll walk you down" shit really rubbed me the wrong way.


le nubian - Oct 26, 2009 7:25:07 am PDT #11467 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think it was patronizing because the two weren't competing.

I know a lot of men in sports competitive situations. This is the kind of shit they say to each other. My SO's Madden online gaming league is a trip.


Kristen - Oct 26, 2009 7:36:42 am PDT #11468 of 23273

Another Top Chef spinoff:

Today, Bravo announced the series pickup of its newest culinary competition series entitled “Top Chef: Just Desserts,” a spin-off of the Emmy and James Beard Award-winning “Top Chef.” The series will consist of pastry chefs competing against one another in a series of challenges. Open calls for chefs interested in competing in the high-stakes culinary competition series will be held in cities across the country starting on October 26.