Not to change the subject, but quick question -- someone's tagline made me wonder: was Anya's last word (at least onscreen, which is all we have to go by) "bunnies"?

I think it was, which is really funny.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was.

And, as I understand it, the Wiccan religion believes that whatever you do, comes back to you seven fold. So, they are anti-sacrifice.

Willow clearly wasn't Wiccan, though - look at her reaction in Hush (she's interested in magic, not philosophy) and Forever (yeah, that's it, it's wrong... am I giving the right answer, sweetie?)

I dunno. I blame her for not investigating the consequences of her spell, but other than that... I mean, I don't believe in Heaven either. If I had the power to bring one of my dearest friends back from the dead, I would find the urge well-nigh impossible to resist, though I'd like to think I'd check up on the question of whether said bringing back was likely to do something Very Very Bad first. (I'd certainly have talked to Giles, for instance.)

Willow clearly wasn't Wiccan, though -

I know, that's why I emphasized "religion" in my post. I was tying to communicate that some folks may be attributing wiccan _religious_ philosophy/characteristics to Willow, because she practiced magic.

I am sucking at getting my point across today. It's probably the hangover. I'll be quiet now.

Eh, don't worry about it - I'm a little drowsy this morning myself.

Still not convinced that Willow did the wrong thing in bringing Buffy back, even though her motives were muddled and suspect. As far as I'm concerned one suffering Buffy is a small price to pay for world saving. I'd of dragged her out of heaven, and killed a herd of bambis, plus puppies and kittens to get her back.

The Scoobies watched Buffy personally save the world something like six times. The Hellmouth was still open. No rest for the Bufster.

I don't know if Willow did the wrong thing as far as the fate of the world is concerned. But she did wrong. She did wrong by Buffy. She did wrong by her partners in crime. She did wrong in not investigating further. She did a lot of wrong, and knew she wasn't innocent of it - going in. This wasn't just a Willow oooops.

Also? Who's to say the world couldn't have been saved otherwise? There was no apocalypse in season 6 - except the one Willow almost brought on, herself. And her wrong may well have brought on the season 7 apocalypse.

As far as I'm concerned one suffering Buffy is a small price to pay for world saving. I'd of dragged her out of heaven, and killed a herd of bambis, plus puppies and kittens to get her back.

Ah! But personalizing it doesn't make it right. You can be convinced or not convinced that Willow was wrong to do what she did, but whether you would do the same thing in the same situation has no bearing on the rightness or wrongness of the action in question.

Who's to say the world couldn't have been saved otherwise?

Yup. And there was always Faith.

I don't believe Willow did it to help out the world. She did it because she could, and because she wanted her friend back. I do believe she honestly thought Buffy was in hell, but I also think believing that served her own purposes.

I do believe she honestly thought Buffy was in hell, but I also think believing that served her own purposes.

It's a Sunnydale tradition, in fact, to have beliefs that are conveniant to living in denial.