I do believe she honestly thought Buffy was in hell, but I also think believing that served her own purposes.
It's a Sunnydale tradition, in fact, to have beliefs that are conveniant to living in denial.
Tell me more good stuff about me.
Kaylee ,'The Message'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Frankenbuddha - Aug 15, 2003 8:50:47 am PDT #4632 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Allyson - Aug 15, 2003 8:54:54 am PDT #4633 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I think she wanted to bring Buffy back from the dead, and convinced herself of the hell dimension in order to justify it. I mean, did they all think Joyce was in Hell? Or Jenny Calendar?
The Warrior of the People was more likely in Valahalla, no?
CarelessWithResurrection!Willow showed up after the Body, as well, by giving Dawn the book with the spell that could resurrect Joyce, without telling Tara, Buffy, or anyone. She left a kid who was on the edge of grief madness all alone with the knowledge of how to bring back Pet Semetary!Joyce.
Willow can be a real dick.
Steph L. - Aug 15, 2003 8:55:27 am PDT #4634 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Damn. I'm too practical as a viewer -- Willow had to bring back Buffy, or else there would have been no S6 and S7.
Although Buffy could have been brought back another way, through other means, by someone else.
But let me have my simplistic Cretin Viewer belief.
Fred Pete - Aug 15, 2003 9:05:56 am PDT #4635 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
All four of them wanted Buffy back for personal reasons (although Tara and Anya may have wanted her back to make their SO's happy).
There was no apocalypse in season 6 - except the one Willow almost brought on, herself.
And Buffy wasn't able to prevent that apocalypse. Xander did.
§ ita § - Aug 15, 2003 9:06:47 am PDT #4636 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Willow had to bring back Buffy so a) there could be more Buffy and b) so that we could see she was arrogant and sliding to the dark side.
DavidS - Aug 15, 2003 9:21:14 am PDT #4637 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Who's to say the world couldn't have been saved otherwise?
Sorry, but if I've been on Buffy's team I'm not going to trust this to the CoW or the slut-bomb with cleavage (who never saved the world once). The practical reasons alone are justification, even if they would be a betrayal of Buffy's friendship.
§ ita § - Aug 15, 2003 9:23:50 am PDT #4638 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
(who never saved the world once)
You're right. She didn't. Did any other slayers? Did the world end?
Burrell - Aug 15, 2003 9:24:09 am PDT #4639 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Willow had to bring back Buffy so a) there could be more Buffy and b) so that we could see she was arrogant and sliding to the dark side.
I'm going to sit here with rational ita. Well, she'll sit, I'll be lying down on my side.
Will there be cabana boys, ita?
§ ita § - Aug 15, 2003 9:24:59 am PDT #4640 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Will there be cabana boys, ita?
Yes, and body pillows.
Sean K - Aug 15, 2003 9:26:31 am PDT #4641 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
The practical reasons alone are justification, even if they would be a betrayal of Buffy's friendship.
I empathize greatly with your position, Hec. I really do. But this still has no bearing on the rightness or wrongness of what our beloved peeps did.