Am I supposed to be changing my clothes a lot? Is that the helpful thing to do?

Anya ,'Storyteller'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Cindy - Aug 15, 2003 7:01:06 am PDT #4614 of 10001
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Anya? If she'd shown more general spell knowledge, maybe I'd have been surprised.

Anya's spell knowledge was kind of like the Enterprise, or Buffy's strength. She had as much as a particular episode called for. She knew about the famous wizard in whatever S5 episode it was, where Buffy did the spell to reveal that Dawn wasn't always real. Her vengeance-fueled magicks acts were good enough to impress D'Hoffryn. Other times, she knew little-to-nothing. It's more acceptable to me though, because I really see Anya as a person who isn't truly present in any given moment, unless she's personally invested in it.

Before Crush, Anya was a sore spot with me, where M.E., Spike, Buffy and souls were concerned. She led men to bloody misery for a thousand years, didn't show a shred of remorse, and yet was good enough for Xander. Yet Spike wasn't fit for Buffy. Granted, Anya had a soul, but at that point in time, she'd seldom put it to good use. I almost felt a wee bit of sexism colored the creation/acceptance of whole X/A relationship. It was okay for the boy hero to be involved with an unrepentant creature, but not for the girl hero.

Yes, Spike tried to rape Buffy. Anya tried to get Xander's friends to wish him dead/dying/in great pain. Pfffft. Feminism minor my ass.


Burrell - Aug 15, 2003 7:03:46 am PDT #4615 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oy. The Willow debate comes up again.

I see it as basically canon that her act was hubristic, she went too far, didn't think it through, etc. Played an integral role in leading her to the dark side.

Does that change my abiding affection for Willow? Nope. That's just me.


Vortex - Aug 15, 2003 7:04:21 am PDT #4616 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But it was clearly a big deal to Willow and Tara otherwise she would've told them that she got the blood from a handy deer.

true. And while I see your arguement about eating meat, there's just something that bothers me about sacrificing an animal. Hmm, maybe if they'd had venison for dinner, I'd feel better.

And, as I understand it, the Wiccan religion believes that whatever you do, comes back to you seven fold. So, they are anti-sacrifice.

Oy. The Willow debate comes up again.

eh. it's summer, we're bored. Time to rehash. :)


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2003 7:06:30 am PDT #4617 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Vortex just made me hungry.


Vortex - Aug 15, 2003 7:07:40 am PDT #4618 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Vortex just made me hungry.

I know. I'm craving a burger like you wouldn't believe


Burrell - Aug 15, 2003 7:08:13 am PDT #4619 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

And while I see your arguement about eating meat, there's just something that bothers me about sacrificing an animal.

Er, wasn't it supposed to?


Steph L. - Aug 15, 2003 7:09:41 am PDT #4620 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And, as I understand it, the Wiccan religion believes that whatever you do, comes back to you seven fold. So, they are anti-sacrifice.

Threefold, IIRC. But the point is still valid -- you do something, and it's going to whammy back on you.


Vortex - Aug 15, 2003 7:11:07 am PDT #4621 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

er, wasn't it supposed to?

Yeah, B, but I was responding to KatieM's statement:

If you're willing to kill an animal to eat it, I can't get morally up in arms about killing an animal in order to bring your friend back from the dead.


Burrell - Aug 15, 2003 7:12:09 am PDT #4622 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

t to Vortex Oh.


Steph L. - Aug 15, 2003 7:12:34 am PDT #4623 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Not to change the subject, but quick question -- someone's tagline made me wonder: was Anya's last word (at least onscreen, which is all we have to go by) "bunnies"?

I think it was, which is really funny.