On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Burrell - Aug 15, 2003 7:03:46 am PDT #4615 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oy. The Willow debate comes up again.

I see it as basically canon that her act was hubristic, she went too far, didn't think it through, etc. Played an integral role in leading her to the dark side.

Does that change my abiding affection for Willow? Nope. That's just me.


Vortex - Aug 15, 2003 7:04:21 am PDT #4616 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But it was clearly a big deal to Willow and Tara otherwise she would've told them that she got the blood from a handy deer.

true. And while I see your arguement about eating meat, there's just something that bothers me about sacrificing an animal. Hmm, maybe if they'd had venison for dinner, I'd feel better.

And, as I understand it, the Wiccan religion believes that whatever you do, comes back to you seven fold. So, they are anti-sacrifice.

Oy. The Willow debate comes up again.

eh. it's summer, we're bored. Time to rehash. :)


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2003 7:06:30 am PDT #4617 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Vortex just made me hungry.


Vortex - Aug 15, 2003 7:07:40 am PDT #4618 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Vortex just made me hungry.

I know. I'm craving a burger like you wouldn't believe


Burrell - Aug 15, 2003 7:08:13 am PDT #4619 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

And while I see your arguement about eating meat, there's just something that bothers me about sacrificing an animal.

Er, wasn't it supposed to?


Steph L. - Aug 15, 2003 7:09:41 am PDT #4620 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And, as I understand it, the Wiccan religion believes that whatever you do, comes back to you seven fold. So, they are anti-sacrifice.

Threefold, IIRC. But the point is still valid -- you do something, and it's going to whammy back on you.


Vortex - Aug 15, 2003 7:11:07 am PDT #4621 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

er, wasn't it supposed to?

Yeah, B, but I was responding to KatieM's statement:

If you're willing to kill an animal to eat it, I can't get morally up in arms about killing an animal in order to bring your friend back from the dead.


Burrell - Aug 15, 2003 7:12:09 am PDT #4622 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

t to Vortex Oh.


Steph L. - Aug 15, 2003 7:12:34 am PDT #4623 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Not to change the subject, but quick question -- someone's tagline made me wonder: was Anya's last word (at least onscreen, which is all we have to go by) "bunnies"?

I think it was, which is really funny.


Katie M - Aug 15, 2003 7:16:38 am PDT #4624 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was.

And, as I understand it, the Wiccan religion believes that whatever you do, comes back to you seven fold. So, they are anti-sacrifice.

Willow clearly wasn't Wiccan, though - look at her reaction in Hush (she's interested in magic, not philosophy) and Forever (yeah, that's it, it's wrong... am I giving the right answer, sweetie?)

I dunno. I blame her for not investigating the consequences of her spell, but other than that... I mean, I don't believe in Heaven either. If I had the power to bring one of my dearest friends back from the dead, I would find the urge well-nigh impossible to resist, though I'd like to think I'd check up on the question of whether said bringing back was likely to do something Very Very Bad first. (I'd certainly have talked to Giles, for instance.)