How anyone can spend three months planning to bring someone back from the dead, and not once consider the possibility that they might not be in a hell dimension...

I always thought this was the beginning of her fast track into evil. This was pure selfishness on her part. I think she grieved for two seconds, and moved right into pure selfishness.

I guess I see what you mean, Hec, about her dealing with it all thorough season 7, but... When I watch her bring Buffy back from the dead, go two-face on Giles and cast that spell on Tara, it has a pretty strong effect on me. I want to see that Willow dealt with. But I guess it's a bit unfair to blame season 7 for that, as that Willow had vanished by the end of season 6.

I thought it showed a lot of hubris on Willow's part to bring Buffy back, but I didn't think it was fundamentally selfish. Also, regarding the hubris - she did it. She really was that powerful.

We talked about it before, but it's expecting a lot for 19 y.o.'s to have the kind of spiritual acceptance to just let Buffy lie in the ground. Especially when they feared she might be in a hell dimension (which was manifesting when she died, and where Angel had been, and where Buffy had been in "Anne.") There was, up to that point, no glimpse of Heaven of any kind really in the Jossiverse. Also, I think they felt like the world needed Buffy - it existed because she'd saved it several times over.

Also, Willow did not act alone in resurrecting Buffy. Of all Wilow's mistakes and sins, resurrecting Buffy seems a lot more forgiveable than some of them.

Also, regarding the hubris - she did it. She really was that powerful.

I don't think the hubris was about whether or not she could, but that she should, and that she knew what impact it would have on the world.

She had no idea.

When I watch her bring Buffy back from the dead

I don't see how this was bad of Willow. She thought she was doing the right thing - and so did Xander, Anya, and Tara. If you think Willow was wrong in doing this, then she shares the blame with the others.

X-posty :)

What Hec Said. If I were Willow, I'dve done the same thing. Not that it still wouldn't be wrong, but I would.

Also with the hubris: not telling Giles, Dawn or Spike. That shows she knew she was doing something potentially very dangerous and wrong, she also knew that she could to, an extent, control Xander, Anya and Tara and was willing to.

edited because now this sounds all argumentative with that last few posts. not meant to be.

Okay, yeah, good points about the Raising. When watching belonging I really noticed the all-19 vibe. No older people to help with the sense of proportion. What about casting that spell on Tara? That was the part I found most unforgivable.

She had no idea.

Still. No Buffy and the First Evil wins.

What about casting that spell on Tara? That was the part I found most unforgivable.

As for most of us as well.