Okay, yeah, good points about the Raising. When watching belonging I really noticed the all-19 vibe. No older people to help with the sense of proportion. What about casting that spell on Tara? That was the part I found most unforgivable.
Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --
Jayne ,'Serenity'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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helentm - Aug 14, 2003 1:18:00 pm PDT #4573 of 10001
Religion isn't the cause of wars. It's the excuse. - Christopher Brookmyre
DavidS - Aug 14, 2003 1:18:02 pm PDT #4574 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
She had no idea.
Still. No Buffy and the First Evil wins.
DavidS - Aug 14, 2003 1:18:35 pm PDT #4575 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What about casting that spell on Tara? That was the part I found most unforgivable.
As for most of us as well.
tina f. - Aug 14, 2003 1:20:54 pm PDT #4576 of 10001
No older people to help with the sense of proportion.
To me that doesn't excuse anything, though. Willow did this on purpose - to exclude other points of view that would disagree with her.
§ ita § - Aug 14, 2003 1:21:40 pm PDT #4577 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
No Buffy and the First Evil wins.
Wins what? It caused the trouble in S7 because of what Willow et al did.
Katie M - Aug 14, 2003 1:29:21 pm PDT #4578 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
We don't actually know that; it could've been her first resurrection. (Though, yeah, probably not.)
What about casting that spell on Tara? That was the part I found most unforgivable.
Oh yes. I'm behind Buffy leaping merrily into bed with S7 Spike before I'm behind Willow and Tara getting back together, no matter how lovely the scene at the end of Entropy was. (And I'm not in favor or the first one, either, to be clear.) I had to kind of unfocus my eyes and forget about the memory spell on Tara exactly the same way a lot of people have to kind of unfocus their eyes about the attempted rape in Seeing Red, because I know my reaction to it is way out of proportion to the one the writers wanted me to have.
Burrell - Aug 14, 2003 1:33:54 pm PDT #4579 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I don't think that resuscitation is comparable to resurrection.
§ ita § - Aug 14, 2003 1:35:39 pm PDT #4580 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think that resuscitation is comparable to resurrection.
Yup. That was very mundane, and is attempted all the time. Beseeching Osiris for the warrior of the people, less so.
tina f. - Aug 14, 2003 1:42:17 pm PDT #4581 of 10001
After her second death, her first one did seem kind of lame. She did get more power from it, though. I've always wondered why. Other than because it was the season finale, I mean.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 14, 2003 1:55:43 pm PDT #4582 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Back then I was assuming that whatever was behind the Slayer's power and destiny was a holy force, and Buffy's brush with death might have supercharged her due to brief closer proximity to it.
That explanation doesn't gibe with the Shadow Men and the swirly gray cloud of disturbing symbolism, but I guess the metaphor of the Hero's Journey with a return from the underworld resulting in newfound strength and knowledge still works pretty well.