Also, regarding the hubris - she did it. She really was that powerful.
I don't think the hubris was about whether or not she could, but that she should, and that she knew what impact it would have on the world.
She had no idea.
Old trusty soda machine. I push you for root beer, you give me Coke.
Willow ,'End of Days'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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§ ita § - Aug 14, 2003 1:12:14 pm PDT #4569 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Glamcookie - Aug 14, 2003 1:12:36 pm PDT #4570 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
When I watch her bring Buffy back from the dead
I don't see how this was bad of Willow. She thought she was doing the right thing - and so did Xander, Anya, and Tara. If you think Willow was wrong in doing this, then she shares the blame with the others.
X-posty :)
erikaj - Aug 14, 2003 1:13:00 pm PDT #4571 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
What Hec Said. If I were Willow, I'dve done the same thing. Not that it still wouldn't be wrong, but I would.
tina f. - Aug 14, 2003 1:14:15 pm PDT #4572 of 10001
Also with the hubris: not telling Giles, Dawn or Spike. That shows she knew she was doing something potentially very dangerous and wrong, she also knew that she could to, an extent, control Xander, Anya and Tara and was willing to.
edited because now this sounds all argumentative with that last few posts. not meant to be.
helentm - Aug 14, 2003 1:18:00 pm PDT #4573 of 10001
Religion isn't the cause of wars. It's the excuse. - Christopher Brookmyre
Okay, yeah, good points about the Raising. When watching belonging I really noticed the all-19 vibe. No older people to help with the sense of proportion. What about casting that spell on Tara? That was the part I found most unforgivable.
DavidS - Aug 14, 2003 1:18:02 pm PDT #4574 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
She had no idea.
Still. No Buffy and the First Evil wins.
DavidS - Aug 14, 2003 1:18:35 pm PDT #4575 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What about casting that spell on Tara? That was the part I found most unforgivable.
As for most of us as well.
tina f. - Aug 14, 2003 1:20:54 pm PDT #4576 of 10001
No older people to help with the sense of proportion.
To me that doesn't excuse anything, though. Willow did this on purpose - to exclude other points of view that would disagree with her.
§ ita § - Aug 14, 2003 1:21:40 pm PDT #4577 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
No Buffy and the First Evil wins.
Wins what? It caused the trouble in S7 because of what Willow et al did.
Katie M - Aug 14, 2003 1:29:21 pm PDT #4578 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
We don't actually know that; it could've been her first resurrection. (Though, yeah, probably not.)
What about casting that spell on Tara? That was the part I found most unforgivable.
Oh yes. I'm behind Buffy leaping merrily into bed with S7 Spike before I'm behind Willow and Tara getting back together, no matter how lovely the scene at the end of Entropy was. (And I'm not in favor or the first one, either, to be clear.) I had to kind of unfocus my eyes and forget about the memory spell on Tara exactly the same way a lot of people have to kind of unfocus their eyes about the attempted rape in Seeing Red, because I know my reaction to it is way out of proportion to the one the writers wanted me to have.