Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me.

'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Feb 26, 2012 9:21:40 am PST #23779 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Thanks Steph for posting about GABA. I'm intrigued because I've had issues with insomnia and racing thoughts all my life, depression too when I was younger. And I notice that it makes a huge difference for me when I'm really relaxed before bed. My hope is that the tablets might work to relax the body and muscles, and that might help me relax my head.

But this article on GABA also mentioned that right now it's popular among bodybuilders, who take it before working out because it is thought to increase HGH. Which kinda freaks me out and makes me pause. It sounds like bodybuilders are taking very high doses however.


smonster - Feb 26, 2012 9:29:21 am PST #23780 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Now I'm intrigued by the GABA too, since insomnia is an increasingly frequent issue for me.


Burrell - Feb 26, 2012 9:36:02 am PST #23781 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Well, my plan was to just take GABA on the nights when I'm having a hard time winding down. Melatonin is still my mainstay for insomnia, but it doesn't always work.


Connie Neil - Feb 26, 2012 9:41:52 am PST #23782 of 30001
brillig

I think I can start thinking of Spring as something nearby. The sun is still mostly up when I get off work, and it's quite bright when I get up to go to work. Ah, light.


§ ita § - Feb 26, 2012 9:56:50 am PST #23783 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I need to read the GABA article, although racing thoughts is explicitly not an issue for me. I get a visceral muscle-lockup sort of anxiety, but I'm pretty good at smoothing out what's going/ on in my noggin.


Consuela - Feb 26, 2012 10:29:47 am PST #23784 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Speaking of insomnia, there was an article the other day about how some historians have discovered evidence that in earlier times people would sleep two distinct sleep-cycles per night, with a one-to-two-hour break in the middle. During which they would... I dunno. Hang out, eat, have sex?

I don't recall where I saw it, but it might help me deal with the occasional night where I wake up at 2 am and end up listening to podcasts until 3:30 or so...


Beverly - Feb 26, 2012 10:31:27 am PST #23785 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

On-guard shifts? It would make sense from certain historical perspectives.


DebetEsse - Feb 26, 2012 10:35:29 am PST #23786 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I've heard about that from a number of sources: the idea of first sleep and second sleep. Apparently, the time between was very productive (meant non-euphemistically) for a lot of people. ISTR Jefferson being cited on that.


Jesse - Feb 26, 2012 10:37:23 am PST #23787 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Isn't there some traditional middle-of-the-night (or, early morning, depending on how you think of it) prayer time for some Christian monks? Not sure why I think that.


Jessica - Feb 26, 2012 10:40:35 am PST #23788 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

During which they would... I dunno. Hang out, eat, have sex?

According to the book I read about it, yeah, pretty much. It was called...something with Sleep in the title. Helpfulness, I haz it.

[eta: That said, I'm not sure the idea of first sleep / second sleep is so much relevant to modern day insomnia, though, because people used to go to bed a lot earlier. It's not like they were staying up to watch The Daily Show back on the savannah.]