Jayne: Yeah, that was some pretty risky sittin' you did there. Wash: That's right, of course, 'cause they wouldn't arrest me if we got boarded, I'm just the pilot. I can always say I was flying the ship by accident.

'Serenity'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Feb 26, 2012 9:36:02 am PST #23781 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Well, my plan was to just take GABA on the nights when I'm having a hard time winding down. Melatonin is still my mainstay for insomnia, but it doesn't always work.


Connie Neil - Feb 26, 2012 9:41:52 am PST #23782 of 30001
brillig

I think I can start thinking of Spring as something nearby. The sun is still mostly up when I get off work, and it's quite bright when I get up to go to work. Ah, light.


§ ita § - Feb 26, 2012 9:56:50 am PST #23783 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I need to read the GABA article, although racing thoughts is explicitly not an issue for me. I get a visceral muscle-lockup sort of anxiety, but I'm pretty good at smoothing out what's going/ on in my noggin.


Consuela - Feb 26, 2012 10:29:47 am PST #23784 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Speaking of insomnia, there was an article the other day about how some historians have discovered evidence that in earlier times people would sleep two distinct sleep-cycles per night, with a one-to-two-hour break in the middle. During which they would... I dunno. Hang out, eat, have sex?

I don't recall where I saw it, but it might help me deal with the occasional night where I wake up at 2 am and end up listening to podcasts until 3:30 or so...


Beverly - Feb 26, 2012 10:31:27 am PST #23785 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

On-guard shifts? It would make sense from certain historical perspectives.


DebetEsse - Feb 26, 2012 10:35:29 am PST #23786 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I've heard about that from a number of sources: the idea of first sleep and second sleep. Apparently, the time between was very productive (meant non-euphemistically) for a lot of people. ISTR Jefferson being cited on that.


Jesse - Feb 26, 2012 10:37:23 am PST #23787 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Isn't there some traditional middle-of-the-night (or, early morning, depending on how you think of it) prayer time for some Christian monks? Not sure why I think that.


Jessica - Feb 26, 2012 10:40:35 am PST #23788 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

During which they would... I dunno. Hang out, eat, have sex?

According to the book I read about it, yeah, pretty much. It was called...something with Sleep in the title. Helpfulness, I haz it.

[eta: That said, I'm not sure the idea of first sleep / second sleep is so much relevant to modern day insomnia, though, because people used to go to bed a lot earlier. It's not like they were staying up to watch The Daily Show back on the savannah.]


le nubian - Feb 26, 2012 10:43:18 am PST #23789 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

the myth of the 8-hour sleep


Atropa - Feb 26, 2012 10:53:14 am PST #23790 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Ooh, I need to read that article about GABA, because as Pix said:

That describes ALL of the depression, anxiety, and insomnia issues I have struggled with since I was a child.

Nowadays I get okay sleep thanks to Ambien and Xanax, but I'm not thrilled with that being the solution, y'know?