Kaylee: You're nice, too. Mal: No, I'm not. I'm a mean old man.

'Serenity'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Dec 14, 2011 6:51:11 am PST #11417 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You are an individual, not a social statement.

But I, an individual, can participate in a social statement. And if that social statement has an effect of taking back lipstick for the people who actually wear it, it's for the good by my reasoning.


le nubian - Dec 14, 2011 6:52:09 am PST #11418 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

tommy,

I have only ordered from them once or twice and they have been pretty speedy, but this time of year? I don't know.

good luck!


Connie Neil - Dec 14, 2011 6:53:49 am PST #11419 of 30001
brillig

I show my power as a woman by looking a man in the eye and forcing him to address me as an equal. Sex bomb red lips don't seem to have the same impact.


Allyson - Dec 14, 2011 6:57:26 am PST #11420 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Wait, so my wearing makeup means that I'm a weak tool of the man? Can't I wear lipstick and look a man in the eye and demand he treat me as an equal? Why is this an either/or proposition?


Calli - Dec 14, 2011 7:04:53 am PST #11421 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Can't I wear lipstick and look a man in the eye and demand he treat me as an equal? Why is this an either/or proposition?

Buffy generally did both.


erikaj - Dec 14, 2011 7:06:03 am PST #11422 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I agree. Even though I don't wear much makeup.


Allyson - Dec 14, 2011 7:06:51 am PST #11423 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Buffy generally did both.

So did Wonder Woman. While wearing star spangled boy shorts.


Allyson - Dec 14, 2011 7:13:53 am PST #11424 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

My back goes straight up about this. The assumption that I'm wearing makeup, dyeing my hair purple or wearing a skirt for anyone but me makes me nuts. My personal aesthetic is not about you.


tommyrot - Dec 14, 2011 7:21:05 am PST #11425 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I called Think Geek. It sound like the order will go out today. If I don't get an email today telling me it's shipped, I am to call them back. If the order goes out tomorrow that's still OK, so it looks like things are good.


Steph L. - Dec 14, 2011 7:22:04 am PST #11426 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

You are an individual, not a social statement.

But I, an individual, can participate in a social statement.

You can. My issue is still with the idea that cosmetics, which are heavily culturally baggage-laden, can be used as a statement of women's "power."

The assumption that I'm wearing makeup, dyeing my hair purple or wearing a skirt for anyone but me makes me nuts.

The assumption that appearance, and the items/tools which are marketed to women to "enhance" our appearance, exist in a cultural and societal vacuum free of any implications, makes me nuts.