Can't I wear lipstick and look a man in the eye and demand he treat me as an equal? Why is this an either/or proposition?

Buffy generally did both.

I agree. Even though I don't wear much makeup.

Buffy generally did both.

So did Wonder Woman. While wearing star spangled boy shorts.

My back goes straight up about this. The assumption that I'm wearing makeup, dyeing my hair purple or wearing a skirt for anyone but me makes me nuts. My personal aesthetic is not about you.

I called Think Geek. It sound like the order will go out today. If I don't get an email today telling me it's shipped, I am to call them back. If the order goes out tomorrow that's still OK, so it looks like things are good.

You are an individual, not a social statement.

But I, an individual, can participate in a social statement.

You can. My issue is still with the idea that cosmetics, which are heavily culturally baggage-laden, can be used as a statement of women's "power."

The assumption that I'm wearing makeup, dyeing my hair purple or wearing a skirt for anyone but me makes me nuts.

The assumption that appearance, and the items/tools which are marketed to women to "enhance" our appearance, exist in a cultural and societal vacuum free of any implications, makes me nuts.

IO9 is reporting on a Mozambique breast self exam ad campaign that uses DC and Marvel superheroines doing their own exams. I wish people weren't treating it as sexual. Including the blog IO9 got the story from (IO9 themselves, aren't, particularly).

My issue is still with the idea that cosmetics, which are heavily culturally baggage-laden, can be used as a statement of women's "power."

I don't think that cosmetics (or anything that's used to enhance female attractiveness) are inherently contaminated. And I'll keep resisting that with quite some effort.

While wearing star spangled boy shorts.

Those are not boy shorts. Those are proper knickers.

I don't think that cosmetics (or anything that's used to enhance female attractiveness) are inherently contaminated.

Why? And that's not a pugilistic "why?" -- I genuinely would like to know why you think that.

I'm with Steph on this. I think it's great that lots of women love wearing makeup, and obviously I think one can wear makeup and still demand equal treatment and respect, but the idea of linking the wearing of lipstick to an international show of solidarity for women kinda skeeves me.

Can't I wear lipstick and look a man in the eye and demand he treat me as an equal? Why is this an either/or proposition?

For me, when I entered this discussion, it's not an either/or of wear lipstick/don't wear lipstick. It's the idea that wearing lipstick is a way for women to show "power." Wear lipstick AND demand a man treat you as an equal; I just seriously doubt that if he does, it's because you're wearing Cherries In The Snow.

Buffy generally did both.

I totally missed the plot line about her power coming from her lipstick. Of course she did both. Again, *so* not the point I was making. How is wearing lipstick "showing power"? If we're going to go with the example of Buffy, how did her wearing lipstick ever, ever kill a monster?