You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one.

Willow ,'Sleeper'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Nov 27, 2009 3:26:55 pm PST #21699 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Louis was very mopey.

Yeah, but not because he was in love with some human chick and his vampire nature made their love FORBIDDEN and IMPOSSIBLE. That kind of angst didn't really exist in those books.


msbelle - Nov 27, 2009 3:32:32 pm PST #21700 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I have MOMAd and bought many things, mostly for me. My MOMA membership expires in Dec and I never used my bonus 20% off card, which you only get to use once in each store, so I bought things in all of the various store options. Some even Christmas gifts, which makes me feel good about spending the money. Then I took some nighttime NY pictures and got weepy, and now I am home in flannel pjs, fuzzy socks and slippers and I am going to have chips and guac for dinner and try to get my head wrapped around the fact that it is Friday, not Monday.


§ ita § - Nov 27, 2009 3:40:29 pm PST #21701 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm watching Innocence right now. It was so much easier to like B/A knowing that a) he goes evil and b) he leaves town and c) she does the nasty with Spike and ends up liking him. I read the Wikipedia entry on the extended Twilight saga and I can't imagine Bella kicking Edward in the nuts. I know Joss not only pissed people off by saying he was there to give them what they want, not what they need but he also participated in Spikely fan-pandering, but I do respect what he did with most of a really peculiar relationship.


Steph L. - Nov 27, 2009 4:19:37 pm PST #21702 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

IIRC, most of the humans being mooned over by vamps were vamped pretty quickly in the Riceverse. The only exceptions I can think of were Daniel and the guy in Tale of the Body Thief (David something?), both of whom were also eventually vamped.

Marius (I think) had Armand as a human houseboy (or the Renaissance equivalent) in his catacombs for quite a while before finally vamping him.

It's been so long since I've read any Anne Rice that I can't totally remember. I think maybe Marius had a thing for Pandora when she was human as well, and then he vamped her.

So maybe Marius is just deviant in the Rice!vampire world. Human-lover.


Jesse - Nov 27, 2009 4:24:57 pm PST #21703 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think for the most part, they talk the long view -- they know they're around forever, so why fuck around with the short term of humans. Like Claudia (that's her name, right?) -- they wanted a little girl to play with, but the year or whatever they could get out of a real girl was bullshit.


Jesse - Nov 27, 2009 4:32:32 pm PST #21704 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think Interview is the only Rice book I kept when I did some big book purge, but now I think I should re-read it.


Sue - Nov 27, 2009 4:39:30 pm PST #21705 of 30001
hip deep in pie

I am watching White Collar--I am a couple weeks behind the US-- and I think they were filming the scene at the restaurant across from Grand Central Station when I was in NY. I didn't see any of the actors when I went by, but I didn't really stand around and gawk.


Atropa - Nov 27, 2009 4:47:09 pm PST #21706 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I think for the most part, they talk the long view -- they know they're around forever, so why fuck around with the short term of humans. Like Claudia (that's her name, right?) -- they wanted a little girl to play with, but the year or whatever they could get out of a real girl was bullshit.

That's pretty much it. Lestat always regarded humans as toys. Louis was all mopey and I AM A MONSTER!, but didn't pine after humans. Marius did keep Armand as some sort of twisted combo of pet/snack bar, but always intended to vamp him.

(Of course I know this stuff. I even re-read Interview and Lestat once a year or so.)


§ ita § - Nov 27, 2009 4:55:21 pm PST #21707 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So Twilight and Moonlight are all Joss's fault?


bon bon - Nov 27, 2009 5:01:16 pm PST #21708 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I would guess more Anne Rice + Laurell K. Hamilton x premarital chastity = Twilight. It doesn't seem similar to Joss as much, since no one's really killing the vampires.