I will rewatch it too! I will stop when the torpedoes go off in Khan's newly acquired ship. And maybe FF until the final 5 minutes. The End!

I thought it was fun too. Stupid, but fun.

I read a complaint that old!Kirk respected women, with a not-so-between-the-lines implication that nuKirk did not.

I'm trying to imagine Shatner's Kirk evincing any particular respect for women, or Pine's Kirk being a sexist ass that's new to the franchise (for some reason my brain keeps replacing Shatner's communicator with an ERA Now! button), and I'm not sure what in particular they're referring to.

My take on Shatner!Kirk is that he's not particularly bad for the time when it was made. It was expected that a single male lead/hero would have an assortment of brief attachments during the run of the show. And only one was something I'd call love (Edith Keeler). He's not obnoxious to the women on his crew, and I can't imagine him stealing a look at someone changing her clothes after she's asked him not to.

Pine!Kirk is more, well, obnoxious, I think. He hits on Uhuru pretty relentlessly, and comes across as more of a jackass generally, even if he doesn't necessarily sleep around any more than Shatner!Kirk did.

That's my take, anyway. If ST is supposed to convey an egalitarian future, in comparison to the present day, Pine is failing rather more than Shatner did.

In the new timeline, we're only just approaching the timing of TOS, right? I hope Pine!Kirk gets less jackassish as they go, assuming they're going to keep going.

Count me in on the liked it train.

I really liked it too.

This Kirk is much younger, though. I think (or fanwank) that a lot of the more irritating personality traits, or traits that seem less connected to the original series, come from that.

He hit on Uhura pretty relentlessly until he relented--it took her being taken to shut him up which is not how you're supposed to act, but there were pretty much no women who weren't potential (and then realised) partners for Shatner!Kirk.

I don't see how there's any difficulty with drawing a line from this Kirk to the one we watched in TOS--it doesn't take much more than time and growing up since I don't see that he's starting from way behind.

I like TOS Star Trek, but I never liked Kirk. I found him really obnoxious, smug, and irritating. It also wasn't a stellar (ho ho) example of deft storytelling or character development or, god forbid, worldbuilding. Those things were refined from the Next Generation onwards. And not always achieved either.

I thought ST:ID was fun, in the dumb, things blowing up, those people are all very decorative way. But I also understand why Trek fans are angry about it, and I feel the writing was lazy.