When you look back at this, in the three seconds it'll take you to turn to dust, I think you'll find the mistake was touching my stuff.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Vortex - May 22, 2009 8:03:45 am PDT #9125 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

They've all been group challenges so far. It's an interesting concept, and more real world.


tiggy - May 22, 2009 8:18:29 am PDT #9126 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Nigel is defending himself on twitter.


le nubian - May 22, 2009 9:20:34 am PDT #9127 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

tiggy, OMG. That is a fucking mess.

His people need to tell him (or whoever is writing those tweets) to back away from the computer. Is that really him?


tiggy - May 22, 2009 9:40:38 am PDT #9128 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

it's really him.


Jesse - May 22, 2009 2:54:08 pm PDT #9129 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Supermodel: Do you all think there is a chance that anyone other than Colin will win fan favorite?

I voted for Jonathan last night, thinking about the family! But of course Colin is really my fan favorite -- I just figure he'll go on to med school and be fine. Jonathan was working construction most recently, right?


Jesse - May 22, 2009 2:56:01 pm PDT #9130 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

SYTYCD -- I can definitely take the "tradition" argument more readily from Sonya, wrt the two ballroom guys, because Nigel does feel like a homophobe to me. (Of course, not that she couldn't be conservative in that way, but it seems less likely.)

Those two from last year's auditions really better both make it on. And the adorable big-family kid better get some training and come back!


Kathy A - May 22, 2009 3:00:02 pm PDT #9131 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Is that the kid who was hip-hopping with his (too young to audition) brother? Because he really was adorable. I do hope he invests in some standard dance classes over the next year.

Those mutant guys in New York were really freaky, but I liked that the judges gave them the chance to show their stuff in the choreography tryout at the end of the day. The guys sound like they were smart and realized there was no way in hell they'd be able to perform at that level and took off before dancing.

I have to wonder why some of those people stick around and audition in the first place after watching someone really good try out?


Liese S. - May 22, 2009 3:01:42 pm PDT #9132 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

SYTYCD: Yeesh.

I think part of what's so restrictive is that there are both Nigel and Mary on the panel, trying to fit all dance into the same sort of framework. I give them credit for trying to learn about the other styles, because I think it's very difficult to move between them, which is what this show asks the dancers to do. But I think that's why sometimes the show breaks down into "was it emotional enough" where only the choreography that tells an explicit narrative is successful. Some of the technical skill is lost in the translation.

I agree again about the hair-flinging, but I have an issue with contemporary in general I think, which I'll have to unpack later.

Gender roles in dance in general are problematic, and it makes me sad because dance is an area where gender should really not be an issue.

MMaSM: I agree that Colin should be Fan Favorite and that I'm sad Salome is gone.

TC:M Cannot wait! Have to make sure I've got the Tivo set, huh?


Jesse - May 22, 2009 4:18:53 pm PDT #9133 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Is that the kid who was hip-hopping with his (too young to audition) brother?

Yes, that's who I meant. He said they were the youngest two out of like 14 kids or something crazy.


meara - May 22, 2009 4:27:05 pm PDT #9134 of 23273

Yes, that's who I meant. He said they were the youngest two out of like 14 kids or something crazy.

Well, when he said that, and that all their siblings danced, I assumed they were members of the Mormon Dancing Mafia...