I thought that the cutoff for starting school was still December for most people in their 30s.

For us, the cutoff was Sept. 1.

Chikat! Mine is the 15th - I hadn't realized that our birthdays were so close.

We are twinkies!

(I'm the oldest in the family and the only one to major in art.)

Okay, only kinda. I'm the middle in my family. Major was in the fine arts, though.

When I was growing up, the cutoff was December, but my school district allowed redshirting* so I wound up the youngest in my class but my sister (also a Nov birthday) was the oldest in hers.

*NOT the same as redshirting in genre TV. In this context it means holding your kid back a year if you feel they're not ready for kindergarten.

I was ususally one of the older kids in my class. I know that I started kindgergarten when my next door neighbor did and she was five or six months younger than I was.

In NC the cutoff was Oct. 15, so Casper started Pre-K at 3! Here it's Sept. 1 and she barely made it (birthday is Aug. 28). If she'd been born Sept. 2 she'd have had to do pre-K over again, which is a weird thought - I'm glad it didn't come to that.

My youngest half-sister' birthday is Oct. 17, and she missed the cutoff and was the oldest in her class, but then did her senior year of high school basically at a local college and graduated from Smith in 3 years. She probably should have been put ahead in the first place, but it did save my father the Smith tuition!

E to bring it on topic for the thread: I would love to see a reality TV show set in a kindergarten class. Or just a webcam. I have NO IDEA what goes on all day.

I would love to see a reality TV show set in a kindergarten class. Or just a webcam. I have NO IDEA what goes on all day.

You should see that French documentary about the year in a life of a one-room schoolhouse. It was really good and interesting and moving.

E to bring it on topic for the thread: I would love to see a reality TV show set in a kindergarten class. Or just a webcam. I have NO IDEA what goes on all day.

some schools and camps have password protected webcams so that parents can look in on their kids. Although sometimes it backfires because the parents will call and say "why isn't my kid participating? what's wrong?"

Top Model: OMG, worst makeover show Tyra ever! Also possibly worst makeovers.

SHUT UP ELINA!

Top Model: OMG, worst makeover show Tyra ever! Also possibly worst makeovers.

Really? I feel like there have been worse ones. there aren't any disasters are there? although...that's entertaining

Maybe not the worst ever, but nothing exciting, I guess.

Tyra and the Jays were ridiculous tonight. I am going to have nightmares about Tyra eating that apple with mouth wide open and juice and apple bits pouring out. And Mr. Jay's Prince Charming hair? Out of control.

I did enjoy Ms. Jay introducing the hair stylist as a weave "mastress". Hybrid of master and mistress? I wonder if that was in honor of Isis. And speaking of, I'm glad Isis got through this week. That must've been incredibly difficult for her. I cannot fathom her winning, but thus far, Tyra and Co. have not done a terrible job.

I remember the photographer from the Swimsuit Issue TV specials that used to come on. I wish they'd had Julie from those shows rather than random mid-range model. I did like that Fivehead finally admitted that her career was not as a high fashion supermodel, but as a commercial model. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Have to agree that this makeover episode was kind of a bust. Severly lacking in drama. And yes, Elina was annoying, but she wound up looking like hell, so I'll cut her some slack. Really, Tyra? And anyway, she killed that photo shoot. She is seriously fierce, although the tatoos, I think, are going to be an issue as a real working model.