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Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Jessica - Jul 03, 2008 4:29:31 am PDT #5828 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The last 30 Days (gun control) surprised me - my knee-jerk reaction was to be annoyed that they didn't do it the other way round (sending a gun nut to live with gun control activists), but it wound up being a really good episode. I was disappointed that the host was such a condescending prick, though - seriously dude, saying things like "Well, who hasn't lost a loved one to gun violence?" as if it were no big deal? Not helping your cause!


sumi - Jul 03, 2008 6:34:06 am PDT #5829 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Kim Vo is scary! Like a modern Ken Doll.


msbelle - Jul 03, 2008 6:56:46 am PDT #5830 of 23273
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I loved the Mia routines.

And although last week I hated the guest judge because he took forever to get going and then talked forever AT LEAST HE TALKED ABOUT THE DANCING.

Bottom 3: Matt/Kourtni, Thayne/Comfort, either Will/Jessica or Twitch/Kherington.

I think it might be Thayne & Kourtni going. I liked Kourtni in try-out a lot, but I don't think she can handle the range of dancing required. Maybe Jessica instead though?

Matt/Comfort would be odd, right? Will/Comfort still odd, but better? How much do you think the judges consider the match-ups they will leave when voting off?


Sassy - Jul 03, 2008 7:24:18 am PDT #5831 of 23273
'Til we dance away...

SYTYCD- Last night's 2nd dance was the first time I didn't hate Jessica, but it's still too little too late. And Comfort has never blown me away the way I feel like she was set up to do, but that may just be me. She could coast by as a hip-hopper for awhile, but having seen the other dancers have much more versatility, I'm tired of waiting for her breakout week.

Can someone explain West Coast Swing to me? Because I didn't feel the chemistry last night, maybe I was distracted by the cheesy costumes but Joshua and Katee didn't seem to own it, they seemed very aware of the cheese factor- so if it's a dance done with irony I guess that's ok.

30 Days- I told my husband while watching it that I wish there could be a followup that was reversed, where the gun toting people went to live in the city and saw that gun violence is a real issue, and came to associate guns with crime or drugs or drivebys. I'm sure some of them would feel even more like they needed a gun for their own protection from that crime, but really, what can you do about getting hit by stray bullets? A gun isn't going to help you out much if you don't even know where the shooting is coming from. After moving from Seattle to Montana 3 years ago, I still can't adjust to so many people having guns. I know now how many people have concealed weapons just walking around the mall, and it's been explained to me that you don't go anywhere without your gun or you'd feel like part of you was missing, but I still just don't understand.


megan walker - Jul 03, 2008 7:26:58 am PDT #5832 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I was very excited to see Kherington (a) do a routine in shoes

Well, boots. But at least they had heels, although still not the spiky ones that everyone else has to dance in.

I did the fast forward/rewatch test this morning. For the first time, I didn't rewatch Mark/Chelsie. I did stop on the Joshua/Katee contemporary, Thayne/Comfort's smooth waltz, Will/Jessica's shirt number, and the bed number. The latter didn't seem any better, in fact it seemed even less dancy and more contrived. Although I still think the shirt number is too prop-based, it improved on rewatch. I half rewatched Benji's number, but it was just too damn slow for swing.

I do think it is time for Matt/Kourtni to go, I would sort of like to see Jessica and Thayne go and see what Will and Comfort could do together.


le nubian - Jul 03, 2008 7:34:30 am PDT #5833 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The problem with the WCS, it seems to me, is that it was too slow.

It looked like the could have picked it up just a notch and been successful. That cartwheel thing should have been taken out altogether because they just couldn't do it, but a different ending could have been choreographed.


meara - Jul 03, 2008 7:49:36 am PDT #5834 of 23273

OK, so I'm having a hard time finding a good youtube clip, because the problem is, much like competition ballroom waltzing is ridiculous looking oftentimes just because of the costumes, competition west coast swinging is often ridiculously cheesy. Much like how Benji does it.

But non-competition west coast swinging (which doesn't end up being the stuff on youtube) is HOT.

If you ignore the crowd cheering, and look the the individual moves (and not the group), you can kinda see it in this group dance here. Really, what I'm saying is, I like the basic stuff. Or when the really good people improv, rather than competition dance. But even then, there's a little too much performance to it, and not enough paying attention to your partner and the connection between you, which is what makes it sexy for me, as a performance.

There's a reason that everyone I know who sees it done in the club by people who are good at it goes "Ooh. I want to learn how to do THAT". Two step is fun and all, but people just want to learn it so they can dance. When they see people west coast swinging, it's like "Damn, that looks sexy"


Sophia Brooks - Jul 03, 2008 7:55:25 am PDT #5835 of 23273
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

This is maybe a dumb question, but is there East Coast Swing?


msbelle - Jul 03, 2008 8:02:05 am PDT #5836 of 23273
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

There is, and it is the swing I prefer.


meara - Jul 03, 2008 8:06:28 am PDT #5837 of 23273

Heh. There is East Coast Swing (I suddenly feel like I'm about to stir up an East Coast/West Coast rap rivalry too). I also do East Coast swing. It's probably more what you think of when you think of swing dancing. Boogie woogie bugle boy and all that. I think of East Coast stuff as being cute. Bouncy. Fun. But not sexy.

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