You have the emotional maturity of a blueberry scone.

Giles ,'Touched'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


sumi - Jan 19, 2011 8:25:25 pm PST #15998 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Huh. So I see Marcel as being chiefly socially tone-deaf and I kind of blame Mike I for not dealing with him well. And I blame him because of what he said at the end which suggested (to me) that he realizes that Marcel is inept socially but was not mature enough himself to not rise to the bait. But aside from that: it was interesting that none of them did a very good dish. It's like the spirit of disunity that they began with completely frelled their ability to cook anything decent.

I'm very happy that Richard won - I had completely forgotten that Dale had been eliminated for his season's Restaurant Wars.

ION, I just found this feature in the Chicago Reader: a chef is challenged with an ingredient - then challenges another chef with a different ingredient, etc. Lots of fun. Link is to the first challenge: Grant Achatz with a se Asian nut.


le nubian - Jan 20, 2011 2:11:36 am PST #15999 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think you are absolutely right that Mike did not deal with Marcel well, and I would probably blame Mike more if this was Marcel's first time at the rodeo. Marcel, at least what we saw in the footage, doesn't seem to have internalized how he may negatively affect people and puts the burden on other people. Mike wasn't right, but it isn't like if Mike had behaved better, this would have been a successful team. They couldn't even function well when they were setting up the menu.


Jesse - Jan 20, 2011 3:08:22 am PST #16000 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Dale is an evil genius for making Marcel the team captain. And I'm just glad they didn't get rid of another woman.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 20, 2011 3:52:36 am PST #16001 of 23273
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Dale is an evil genius for making Marcel the team captain.

That was well played. And I loved Richard talking about doing the "back of the class" thing when he was hoping Marcel wouldn't pick him.


sumi - Jan 20, 2011 4:38:44 am PST #16002 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, yeah, Dale played that very well.

Well, I'm just happy that we didn't have another gang of people attacking Marcel for whatever reason. Somebody other than Mike may have dealt with Marcel better. For example, no matter how much Richard didn't want to be on Marcel's team - I bet he would not have pouted if he wound up there.

Fabio was just so excellent in dealing with FoH - both in managing his waitstaff and being the host. I think he is the best FoH person that has been on Top Chef.


Jesse - Jan 20, 2011 4:41:39 am PST #16003 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, absolutely. He actually managed the FoH, and did it well.


sumi - Jan 20, 2011 4:44:43 am PST #16004 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

And I also have to say that I don't hate Marcel but the entire time he was on the show I kept waiting for something terrible to happen. He just should not be in situations where people can't get a break from him. And I don't think he understands that he is very annoying because he doesn't seem to read people well. I'm not sure that this is the sort of thing that you actually learn, is it?


Nora Deirdre - Jan 20, 2011 6:08:46 am PST #16005 of 23273
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

kind of blame Mike I for not dealing with him well. And I blame him because of what he said at the end which suggested (to me) that he realizes that Marcel is inept socially but was not mature enough himself to not rise to the bait.

Well, Mike was at his most obnoxious during his season in regards to Robin, so obviously he doesn't deal well with people he finds annoying yet needs to work with.

God, I was so scared that the diners would pick Marcel's restaurant, given how much the editing showed the judges loving Bodega and the repetition of how FOR THE FIRST TIME the diners were picking the winning team.

Tiffany really dodged a bullet there.

I really liked to QF, too!


lisah - Jan 20, 2011 6:16:15 am PST #16006 of 23273
Punishingly Intricate

And I'm just glad they didn't get rid of another woman.

But both of the heads of the teams picked the women last. That pissed me off considering how well the women who remain have been doing!

Marcel described himself as being considered "diabolical." He really has no conception of how he is really perceived -- as being supremely annoying. Not evil.


megan walker - Jan 20, 2011 6:19:30 am PST #16007 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Honestly, with this quality of chefs, I don't know how you get to pick your team for Restaurant Wars and not pick Fabio first.

Also, is it just me, or is Angelo way more sympathetic this time around?