Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


meara - Aug 20, 2010 7:28:52 am PDT #14999 of 23273

How did you notice? Your credit card bill didn't match your receipt? Damn.


Toddson - Aug 20, 2010 9:42:11 am PDT #15000 of 23273
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Has anyone watched Plain Jane? I kind of like it ... it's sweet in a weird kind of way.


Vortex - Aug 20, 2010 9:53:00 am PDT #15001 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Okay, so they're saying that I wasn't overcharged, that it was a "pre-authorization" and I will only be charged the original amount. When I called shenanigans and said that they are obligating my card, he claimed that it was just an authorization. I said "it's a debit card, and my balance is $18 less than it should be." THEN he claimed that the bank did the additional pre-authorization, not them. I said "well, I will be calling my bank to talk with them about that." He said nothing, he just fucking lied. I'm writing a hot letter now.


meara - Aug 20, 2010 9:58:15 am PDT #15002 of 23273

Vortex, the bank thinks you ought to tip 20%. Try THAT one on, Miss Manners!! "My boyfriend thinks 15% is enough, but the bank says 20% is right..."


Frankenbuddha - Aug 20, 2010 10:03:14 am PDT #15003 of 23273
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I've had that happen on my bank card before - the amount it looks like I paid is higher than the amount I did on the card (because I tipped cash). When the actual transaction cleared, it was the right amount. It may still be shenanigans on the restaurant’s end, but I wouldn't put it past banks to pull that shit just to make you "accidentally" overdraft.


Vortex - Aug 20, 2010 10:16:14 am PDT #15004 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I called my bank to check to make sure. I was pretty sure that this wasn't their practice, or I would have noticed it by now. They confirmed that they don't do that, any additional preauthorization is on the part of the merchant.

Also, I was at another high end restaurant and wasn't quite sure of the balance on the debit card, then they told me that my card had been declined. I gave them a credit card, but checked my balance, and there was just enough to cover the cost. I suspect that they tried to preauthorize the 20 percent over and it wouldn't go through.


Fred Pete - Aug 20, 2010 10:18:10 am PDT #15005 of 23273
Ann, that's a ferret.

It isn't unusual for merchants to "reserve" a set amount on a credit or debit card if they get authorization before you know how much the transaction is. Example -- you pull into a gas station and swipe your card. The gas station's system is set up to request authorization for a set amount that it's pretty certain you won't exceed -- say, $75. The bank then places a hold on that $75.

Then, when the transaction actually reaches the bank for, let's say, $25, the bank pays the $25 and releases the hold on the rest.

So my guess is, the bank authorized (bill + 20%). But only because the restaurant asked for that amount to be authorized.


Kathy A - Aug 20, 2010 10:19:58 am PDT #15006 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

$75, Fred? I've never heard of a gas station requesting authorization for anything over $1.


brenda m - Aug 20, 2010 10:20:48 am PDT #15007 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

$75, Fred? I've never heard of a gas station requesting authorization for anything over $1.

I heard this a lot, actually - it can be a real problem if you're using a debit card and don't have a lot of float.


Fred Pete - Aug 20, 2010 10:23:38 am PDT #15008 of 23273
Ann, that's a ferret.

There are several ways to do it, Kathy. I think the $1.00 authorization is becoming more and more common because of the possibility for the situation Frank described. The bank places a hold on the higher amount (and subtracts it from the balance), the customer subtracts the actual amount from the balance in the check register, and suddenly the account is overdrawn according to the bank.