Mal: If anyone gets nosy, just, you know... shoot 'em. Zoe: Shoot 'em? Mal: Politely.

'Serenity'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Jessica - Dec 22, 2009 5:00:38 am PST #12537 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Russell's biggest strategic move was convincing John to vote with them, but aside from that, I'm not sure I buy that he did all the heavy lifting. Natalie's social game got Erik out and contributed to the jury liking her.

I agree. Russell may have played a *bigger* game, but I don't think he played a smarter one, and Natalie did a hell of a lot more to contribute to their overall strategy than previous under-the-radar winners. I think she did a great job of letting Russell think he was doing all the work, but I don't think he would have survived the merge without her.

The biggest question in my mind is WHY THE HELL DIDN'T BRETT FIGHT TO GET RID OF RUSSELL WHEN HE HAD IMMUNITY???? The hidden idol was out of the game, so no risk there. Brett had immunity, so no risk of backfiring and voting himself out. Why on EARTH wouldn't he go to Mick and Jaison and say hey guys, Russell only wants you in the finals as filler, you know that, right? If Brett had gotten rid of Russell at 5, it would have been him up against Mick, Jaison and Natalie in the final IC and he would be a millionaire right now. Dumbass.


megan walker - Dec 22, 2009 7:37:07 am PST #12538 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Let me be clear, I don't think Natalie didn't deserve to win. The "rules" of Survivor are pretty simple 1) get to the end, 2) convince people to vote for you. She did that (although I actually think it was people on the jury who really did the latter).

I just don't see this season as being an exception as to how Survivor generally plays out.

But then, I've never wanted Survivor to be more about the social aspect (I get enough of that bullshit in the real world).


Scrappy - Dec 22, 2009 7:48:40 am PST #12539 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Jessica--we were yelling at the screen at Brett about that very thing at the time. "Now's the time,dude, vote out Russell!" But, noooooo.


Jessica - Dec 22, 2009 7:58:08 am PST #12540 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

OTOH, if it didn't occur to the doctor and the law student that voting out Russell might be a good idea, I can't really be too surprised that it also escaped the tee-shirt designer.


Scrappy - Dec 22, 2009 8:04:12 am PST #12541 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

May I say that the examples we saw of Brett's t-shirts in the show and at reunion were not particularly impressive.


beekaytee - Dec 22, 2009 8:04:52 am PST #12542 of 23273
Compassionately intolerant

Zipping to the end to say that I enjoyed the Sing Off overall. I can't remember another competition show where I was truly and completely torn over who I wanted to win. Nor one where I was so motivated to vote. (except for one AmId, when I voted for a friend)

I was glad for Nota and not at all surprised. I think I've replayed their "Down" on youtube roughly 50 times.

I suspect the Bubs are going to be booked UP, ala Only Men Aloud t [link] for a long time to come.

About the finale. I was shocked that my favorite celebrity 'duet' ended up being Nicole. Girl really has the pipes. (I'll have to give up calling her their version of Paula Abdul, I guess)

While I adore Bobby McFerrin like unto a demigod, I wasn't blown away by his performance. And I was sad for Nota that Smokey didn't show for rehearsals. He obviously devoted major time to AI, but this competition didn't pull.

And Ben? God bless a fellow who can't really sing for advocating on behalf of A capplla. I loved both his and Shawn's knowledgeable and encouraging judging. Len and Simon could learn a thing from those two.


brenda m - Dec 22, 2009 8:09:02 am PST #12543 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Brett wasn't in much of a position to make that deal, though.

Okay, so he convinces them that Russell's not really their ally. But at the same time, Russell was also not nearly such a jury threat as Brett, and was not currently on an immunity streak.

Which doesn't make Mick or Jaison any less dumbasses for not trying it at the final 4 stage. Natalie would have been a hard sell, but still.

Actually, no - I'll bet they could have sold her with a credible tie threat. If it went to a tie she'd have been facing a 50-50 shot at being out, while one of those guys was already on their way out the door to begin with so really not as big a crap shoot. If they'd had the guts to stick with it, which I doubt.

ETA: Wait, duh, I'm misremembering the order they went out in. I still don't think Brett had much leverage to do much of anything though since either way, he was clearly perceived as the biggest threat.


Jesse - Dec 22, 2009 8:14:21 am PST #12544 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, the Sing-Off finale was cute, and fun that Jay Sean showed up at the end! I think it was a surprise, because David didn't seem to know if he should keep singing lead or what.


beekaytee - Dec 22, 2009 8:30:53 am PST #12545 of 23273
Compassionately intolerant

Definitely a surprise. Bless David's shocked little heart. Jay Sean should have just given him the lead!

Nerves seemed more evident in the finale than even in the first episode. Some of the best singers stumbled a little here and there. But still fun. The Voices of Lee seemed to become a back up band for their lead. I wonder if that was a producer call.


Jessica - Dec 22, 2009 8:31:57 am PST #12546 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But at the same time, Russell was also not nearly such a jury threat as Brett, and was not currently on an immunity streak.

But at that point (final five) voting out Brett wasn't an option b/c he had immunity. And yet the *only* discussion that was had around camp (that we saw) was Russell and Natalie flipping a coin over Mick vs Jaison.

I'm not saying Brett would have succeeded in voting out Russell instead, but don't you think it would have been a good idea to try? What would he have had to lose?