I know Russell was trying to play Like Richard hatch, but Hatch was fairly pleasant to his castmates an kept most of his machinations for the confessionals. I think Russell was too contemptuous of the other players, and that truly isn't good gameplay.
Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?
'Shells'
Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own
This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]
Scrappy - Dec 21, 2009 7:15:32 am PST #12528 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Vortex - Dec 21, 2009 10:07:51 am PST #12529 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Scrappy, I thought that you meant Russell from SYTYCD, and I was all "no! he's a sweetheart!" until I realized that you were talking about Survivor.
Scrappy - Dec 21, 2009 10:11:29 am PST #12530 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Hee, Vortex!
Liese S. - Dec 21, 2009 2:33:29 pm PST #12531 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
I know! That happened to me earlier in this thread. Hee.
brenda m - Dec 21, 2009 4:45:53 pm PST #12532 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
There were way too many Russells on reality tv this fall.
Lee - Dec 21, 2009 5:17:48 pm PST #12533 of 23273
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I sat next to one of them on a plane!
That was this summer though.
megan walker - Dec 21, 2009 9:44:43 pm PST #12534 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
I'm happy about the result of Survivor. I think it bodes well for future editions of the game.
Really? Why? How is this not the same old coattail effect we've seen time and time again, with the person who does all the heavy lifting getting shafted because they have no "integrity"?
le nubian - Dec 21, 2009 10:00:38 pm PST #12535 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
we have to question: did he do "all the heavy lifting?" Apparently Russell was getting on everyone's nerves out there. His biggest accomplishments were talking to various people individually who knew he was lying to them.
Russell's biggest strategic move was convincing John to vote with them, but aside from that, I'm not sure I buy that he did all the heavy lifting. Natalie's social game got Erik out and contributed to the jury liking her.
bon bon - Dec 21, 2009 10:56:52 pm PST #12536 of 23273
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Really? Why? How is this not the same old coattail effect we've seen time and time again, with the person who does all the heavy lifting getting shafted because they have no "integrity"?
It's not about Natalie winning, it's about Russell being trounced. To me, the genius of Survivor is that you have to get the jury of people you booted vote for you. There's an exciting tension between strategizing to defeat them and convincing them you deserve to win. It privileges the social aspect and ensures that pleasant people like JT, Yul and Bob win. But if Russell won this time, I think more players would adopt his strategy and future juries might think a complete douchebag play is sufficient to win Survivor.
Jessica - Dec 22, 2009 5:00:38 am PST #12537 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Russell's biggest strategic move was convincing John to vote with them, but aside from that, I'm not sure I buy that he did all the heavy lifting. Natalie's social game got Erik out and contributed to the jury liking her.
I agree. Russell may have played a *bigger* game, but I don't think he played a smarter one, and Natalie did a hell of a lot more to contribute to their overall strategy than previous under-the-radar winners. I think she did a great job of letting Russell think he was doing all the work, but I don't think he would have survived the merge without her.
The biggest question in my mind is WHY THE HELL DIDN'T BRETT FIGHT TO GET RID OF RUSSELL WHEN HE HAD IMMUNITY???? The hidden idol was out of the game, so no risk there. Brett had immunity, so no risk of backfiring and voting himself out. Why on EARTH wouldn't he go to Mick and Jaison and say hey guys, Russell only wants you in the finals as filler, you know that, right? If Brett had gotten rid of Russell at 5, it would have been him up against Mick, Jaison and Natalie in the final IC and he would be a millionaire right now. Dumbass.