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'Out Of Gas'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Liese S. - Nov 10, 2009 8:12:27 pm PST #11795 of 23273
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

It was really bad. Mollee/Nathan was unbelievably bad. I was surprised how bad. I wasn't expecting it to be good, but she needs to go home.

Ellenore was definitely better, but still bad. I can't understand how they don't understand how important the end of the movement is in hip hop. Hitting hard is not just a state of mind. Ryan was really bad in it. It looked like a parody. Which is too bad, because I liked the choreography.

Hate Ashley. And she's going to coast on Jakob's coattails indefinitely. Break up the partnerships! I guess it could be worse.

Russell. Oh, Russell. I thought Noelle's movement wasn't atrocious, but she could have taken it farther. And her comment about how it's hard for them to be together because of the difference in their styles may be true, but it's more true that it's hard for them to be together because of the difference in their skill levels. But they pulled it off, and I loved the whole thing. But particularly, loved Russell.


Lee - Nov 10, 2009 8:31:21 pm PST #11796 of 23273
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Russell's dancing was pretty much the only thing memorable in a good way about the whole two hours.

Also, what the hell, Cat--between the hair and the dress, you looked like the Lizard Queen.


kat perez - Nov 10, 2009 8:42:01 pm PST #11797 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I loved, loved Russell. Noelle was kind of just there. She didn't mess Russell up like last week in the hip hop, so that's progress, I guess. I like this new choreographer quite a bit, Sean Cheesman? I do hope he comes back. I also liked the non-Tasty Broadway dude, Andy. That routine was super cute. I thought the judges were a little bit hard on Kathryn. She should've been a little bit more vixen and less cutsey pie, but she danced the piece very well. Her lines are always so clean. She's quite lovely. And I really do think she's making Legacy tons better. I continue to be impressed with him, which I wasn't expecting at all.


meara - Nov 10, 2009 8:56:08 pm PST #11798 of 23273

I definitely liked the non-Tasty Broadway dude, if only because he was...non-Tasty. And I was kinda with the judges on Kathryn, but also am not sure how much more she could've done, really. And I am surprised how much I'm liking Legacy.

And I wasn't saying that Ellenore was GREAT, but just better. :)

Loving Russell.

I can't wait to see who gets voted for, though.


kat perez - Nov 10, 2009 11:13:06 pm PST #11799 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

My thoughts on tonight's show. I really have no idea who might be going home and I don't like it. I hope it's Mollee and Peter, but I don't see Mollee going any time soon, and I don't think Nigel wants to throw all three tappers out before top 10. If it's any of my top guys (Russell, Jakob, Legacy, Kevin), there will be blood.


le nubian - Nov 11, 2009 3:19:41 am PST #11800 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The choreographer of Russell and Noell's routine is a main choreo for SYTYCD Canada. He came up with some wonderful routines in the most recent past season. He usually is pretty consistent and very good.


Kathy A - Nov 11, 2009 6:05:27 am PST #11801 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I am seriously in love with Jakob now, if I wasn't before. Not only can he dance amazingly well, but, well, whatever wrongs the costumers have done in the past are forgiven after that gorgeous 60s-style suit of his! He was smoking hot in that number. (And I just laughed when I realized that they edited out any reference to the word "come" in the song.)

I think that Ashleigh would have been better off partnering with Legacy this week--she might have gotten into the character better than Kathryn did. Legacy actually outperformed Kathryn last night, IMO, even though she was better technically (of course). I'm still waiting to see how he'll mangle a ballroom dance, though.

Kevin did impress me a bit with his jete and some of his lines, but he has gotten into a "ohmygodohmygod" fear of any kind of partnering moves (Nigel was right about the look in his eyes before the death drop) and it was really awkward to watch. Karen was good, but I was so distracted by him that I didn't pay too much attention to her.

Russell! RussellRussellRussell!! That is all.

B3 for me were Peter/Pauline, Ryan/Ellenore, and Mollee/Nathan. I do fear the power of the texting skills of the teenyboppers because those last two should be long gone, at least Mollee should. Compare her version of "sexy" to Karen. Not even five or ten more years will make Mollee sexy, so it isn't just a maturity issue.


flea - Nov 11, 2009 6:22:44 am PST #11802 of 23273
information libertarian

I actually thought Kevin and Karen are likely bottom 3, and deservedly so. I could lose Kevin without much pain (don't hit me, Kat!) partly because I feel like he is interested more in fame than in dance. He feels like a poser to me. And ditto on Ryan, whose true famewhoredom is revealed as we learn that he wants to parlay this gig into film action hero stardom. Yawn.

Best numbers were Jakob and Russell. There were a lot of numbers that had charm but limited danciness (Peter and Pauline, Legacy and Kathryn.) I was disappointed in Channing and Victor not because there was anything wrong with it - it was well-choreographed and well-danced, but because it didn't stand out at all.

I could happily lose Ryan, Peter, Victor, or Kevin, and Channing, Pauline, Mollee. (I'd be fine losing Noelle or Ashleigh, too, but there's no chance they'll be B3.) Really, the only possible elim I see that would make me sad right now is Ellenore.

Best line of the night goes to Shankman (of course), for "When I think African Princess there's just one name on the list: Noelle."


flea - Nov 11, 2009 6:25:30 am PST #11803 of 23273
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Oh, also, not only do I like Sean Cheeseman as a choreographer, and he has an awesome name, but he's hot, too!


kat perez - Nov 11, 2009 7:27:58 am PST #11804 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I would never hit flea for she is fantastic.

I do enjoy Kevin, though. He's so pretty, first off, and that counts a lot in my book. Amazingly, he has fallen below Legacy in the hip hop triumvirate, which I never thought would happen. But to really make the call, I'm going to have to see Legacy bust out some ballroom. I just think this week if Kevin hits B3 with Peter and Ryan, it would be a shame to see him go home before the last tapper standing or the ballroom stud. For me, Kevin, Ryan and Peter are all very similar. Cute guys, lots of personal charisma. Very good in their own styles, limited outside of their comfort zones. Kevin is just more interesting for me. Ryan is a famewhore in dancers clothing and I don't like it. At the same time, he's the only ballroom boy left, and they haven't had a good shirt taker-offer in a really long time, since Pasha in S4. So I can't see the judges sending him home this week. As for Peter, well, there's something slightly smarmy about Peter. And the staged class with the kids with identified special needs like he was some tapping Sally Struthers made me furious. Fool, please. He rubs me all the wrong way. So that's why I'll be really sad if Kevin is sacrificed this week to keep Peter around and keep egg off of Nigel's face, since he did label this "The Year of the Tapper" and all. If Kevin lasts through this week, I'd probably be OK with losing him soon thereafter because of the three hip hop guys left, he's my least favorite.