Don't you just love this party? Everything's so fancy, and there's some kind of hot cheese over there.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


brenda m - Aug 27, 2009 4:09:54 am PDT #10543 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

This is Frank Bruni's advice on menus from his last NYT column, but it works pretty well as a guide to judging Top Chef:

Scratch off the appetizers and entrees that are most like dishes you’ve seen in many other restaurants, because they represent this one at its most dutiful, conservative and profit-minded. The chef’s heart isn’t in them.

Scratch off the dishes that look the most aggressively fanciful. The chef’s vanity — possibly too much of it — spawned these.

Then scratch off anything that mentions truffle oil.

Choose among the remaining dishes.


victor infante - Aug 27, 2009 4:10:12 am PDT #10544 of 23273
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It makes me wonder if it's a pronunciation she picked up from Eric Ripert.

She's obviously authoritative, so I'm suspecting her pronunciation is correct and coming from some regionalism or dialect or Ripertism or something.


brenda m - Aug 27, 2009 4:12:05 am PDT #10545 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Well. I can see how if you pronounce the word as if it were French, you'd come up with something like that (though I'd expect a softer "ch" at the end). But I don't know I'd go so far as to call it correct.


le nubian - Aug 27, 2009 4:22:27 am PDT #10546 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yeah, it ain't correct. No one else in the history of the show has said it that way - including judges and other contestants. Granted, the one chef is from PR and not Spain, but he doesn't pronounce it that way.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 27, 2009 4:28:19 am PDT #10547 of 23273
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Is that something the judges would call her on if it was incorrect? I know they'd call her if the dish was made incorrectly, and since she's done it twice now to accolades (though unacknowledged last night), she must be doing it right.

I hope she doesn't go to the ceviche well again, or she's going to come across as a one-trick pony.

I must say I was pretty eye-rolly with the men vs. women challenge last night. I get why it was appropriate given the theme of the event, but I felt like I was watching Hell's Kitchen at a couple of points (especially with some of the guys jumping in the pool).


Jessica - Aug 27, 2009 4:40:28 am PDT #10548 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Technically correct or not, "seh-VEETCH" just sounds pretentious.


Kathy A - Aug 27, 2009 7:28:45 am PDT #10549 of 23273
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Heh--someone over at WX has dubbed Kevin "Yukon Cornelius," which totally fits!


Amy - Aug 27, 2009 7:32:59 am PDT #10550 of 23273
Because books.

Wait, so it's supposed to be "seh-VEE-chay," right? Or wrong? I'm confused now.

Kevin as Yukon Cornelius is brilliant. I really like him, too. He reminds me of S1 Dave a bit, in that he's not cocky, not arrogant, but he may cook better than he thinks he does.


kat perez - Aug 27, 2009 7:58:48 am PDT #10551 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Jen's pronunciation of ceviche is annoying and nowhere in the neighborhood of correct. It's primarily a South American dish, no? Peruvian although most S. American countries do their own versions. So yeah, it should be something like "seh-vee-chay." They may mispronounce it in French restaurants. I don't know. I still mostly like Jen, though, and hope she goes far.

I was glad to see Eve go home. She seemed so clueless in the first two episodes. She may be a great chef, but she was really wrong for this show.

ETA: Actually, if you really want to get jiggy with it, the "vee" would sound more like a "bee", so something like "seh-BEE-chay". In S. America, you'll often even see it spelled with a "b" rather than a "v", so cebiche.


le nubian - Aug 27, 2009 8:13:51 am PDT #10552 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I thought initially she was trying to do a Rachael Ray and be cutesy with her pronunciation. After seeing her in 2 eps, that doesn't seem like her personality, so I don't know what's going on.