Oh, yeah. There was this time I was pinned down by this guy that played left tackle for varsity... Well, at least he used to before he was a vampire... Anyway, he had this really, really thick neck, and all I had was a little, little Exact-O knife ... You're not loving this story.

Buffy ,'Beneath You'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Frankenbuddha - Jun 16, 2003 7:34:31 am PDT #5116 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Hmmm... interesting. I love Wes Anderson's stuff, but I wonder if he would also irritate me if his little world was on display every week instead of just for 2 hours.

As I said, I find Wes Anderson the far more interesting work. A lot of that has to do with the fact that his stuff is far more fantastical. It's rare to find a talent so whimsical who manages to avoid the cloying, Rushmore moreso than TRT.

6FU is far more prosaic (I certainly won't say more realistic), but what I enjoy about the show is similar to what I enjoy about WA.


meara - Jun 16, 2003 7:34:49 am PDT #5117 of 9843

And let me take this opportunity to recommend "Swimming", a wonderful indie film she starred in a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, it's gotten minimal distribution.

Hee! I just watched it Friday! Except it was advertised to us as this lesbian film, so we kept waiting for the lesbianism, and while there was plenty of dyke drama, there was no actual dykeyness, so we were quite disappointed.

But I think watching that film is why I hooked up with the girl who looked like Lauren Ambrose on Saturday...


Susan W. - Jun 16, 2003 8:21:46 am PDT #5118 of 9843
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I've never seen SFU--it's one of those premium cable shows, right? Never seen SITC or the Sopranos, either, since we're on the everything-but-premium digital cable plan.

However, I've tried to watch The West Wing several times and just never managed to get into it. Which is surprising, since Dave is one of my most favoritest movies ever, and I never turn down a chance to rewatch The American President, so it's not like I'm opposed to idealistic escapist presidential fantasy worlds. Of course, neither movie takes itself seriously.


Jon B. - Jun 16, 2003 8:24:44 am PDT #5119 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Were you truly disappointed, Meara, or just mock disappointed? I thought it was a great character study.

t edit But good on ya for the LA-lookalike-hookup.


meara - Jun 16, 2003 8:36:57 am PDT #5120 of 9843

I really really really loved West Wing the first season or two, but these days, i don't even watch it. Sigh.

It was more mock disappointed, Jon. Though it probably wasnt' the best movie to watch late at night while tired--my friend kept falling asleep and waking up five minutes later wondering what happened. :)

And the LA-alike was very cute. Way young, and sadly not LA on the inside. But very cute.


Typo Boy - Jun 16, 2003 9:00:36 am PDT #5121 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

American Pharma Lobbies to raise Canadia prescription prices - out of pure altruism and desire to protect Canadia consumers of course.


Nutty - Jun 16, 2003 9:01:53 am PDT #5122 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think the idea originally behind West Wing was a good one -- the ways that politics are a series of compromises, how rhetoric and action have nothing to do with each other; how unsleeping freaks love their jobs and burn out and rededicate themselves, but never find the reality as good as their principles.

Unfortunately, Martin Sheen's job got bigger and showier; the moralizing got more and more simplified; the optimism pushed out into Fantasyland; it all took on a tone of sneering superiority; and, after all, it's a lot easier for a liberal fiction to have a dialogue with a disappointing Democrat than with a conservative Republican.

I think the show was destined to become irrelevant, due to the pendulum of US politics. But it didn't have to begin to suck as well; that's squarely on the writer.


evil jimi - Jun 16, 2003 11:50:55 am PDT #5123 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Leigh ... a few weeks ago a mate reckons he saw a mention of Firefly in the t Brainfart tv book t /Brainfart ... apparently 9 have snagged the rights to it and will be showing it some time this year. Probably won't start until nearer summer but keep an eye out for it.

6FU had some good episodes in the begininng but then not so much.

t hidden msg about Madrigal

saw the pics of the F2F ... babelicious! ;)

t /hidden msg about Madrigal


bon bon - Jun 16, 2003 12:33:52 pm PDT #5124 of 9843
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm just so glad I'm not alone in feeling peevish toward 6FU and WW. It's like it's all professionally done, but the personality behind the show is distastefully supercilious. Joss doesn't bore at your skull with the rightness of his worldview, thank god.


evil jimi - Jun 16, 2003 2:23:25 pm PDT #5125 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Okay, I take back the nice things I said about 7. Just noticed those wankers are repeating "Tabula Rasa" tonight but screening a new ep of Angel tomorrow night.

Just broadcast the doggamn shows already, ya fucking mooks!

Edited to add: to make matters worse, Buffy's on half an hour later b/c of the season premiere of Crossing Jordan