I could never get into SFU, mostly because I seriously hated a couple of the characters, and was indifferent to the rest of them. They're all rather passive; stuff keeps happening to the characters, rather than the characters causing stuff to happen. I figured out pretty early on that the reason the characters exist is so that the writers can torture them.
You're nice, and you're funny and you don't smoke, and okay, werewolf, but that's not all the time. I mean, three days out of the month, I'm not much fun to be around, either.
Willow ,'Get It Done'
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Tom Scola - Jun 16, 2003 5:35:41 am PDT #5097 of 9843
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
billytea - Jun 16, 2003 5:35:50 am PDT #5098 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Um, it is a British show. That, or somehow Michigan annexed Leeds after I stopped taking geography. It was more of a how anything from the UK is seen as automatically better, even if it isn't considered much back home.
Suddenly America makes sense. You're Romans! (Romans with Greek architecture, granted.) The Romans had the same deal going on with Greece; all the best literature an' stuff had to come from Greece. All the best kids had to learn Greek and Greek literature, taught to them by Greek slaves of course. Which may not fit quite as well, unless there's a black market in Scouse and Geordie pedagogues that has hitherto escaped my attention. But you have the powerful military! And the obsession with family values! And the mad emperor trying to make his horse a senator, I tell you it all fits!
amych - Jun 16, 2003 5:37:55 am PDT #5099 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Which may not fit quite as well, unless there's a black market in Scouse and Geordie pedagogues that has hitherto escaped my attention.
Well, there was that plan to kidnap Fay. But she managed to find another ticket and make her escape, the clever girl.
Madrigal Costello - Jun 16, 2003 5:40:35 am PDT #5100 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
Oh, we are so Rome. We've even got our own Gladiators, and what is Reality TV and Jerry Springer if not slightly different versions of the fights for public spectacle. We even get lead poisoning the way they did. I didn't spend three years in Latin Club just to learn the language - it was all about survival.
Frankenbuddha - Jun 16, 2003 5:53:32 am PDT #5101 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I figured out pretty early on that the reason the characters exist is so that the writers can torture them.
Well sure, but this could be the Mutant Enemy mission statement.
They're all rather passive; stuff keeps happening to the characters, rather than the characters causing stuff to happen.
This part, not so much.
Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 16, 2003 5:54:49 am PDT #5102 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
It was more of a how anything from the UK is seen as automatically better, even if it isn't considered much back home.
Replace 'UK' with 'US' and you have a general idea of how many British critics view what we get. Not all of them, but there's a definate trend to say "of course, the Americans make better TV".
Tom Scola - Jun 16, 2003 5:56:06 am PDT #5103 of 9843
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
They're all rather passive; stuff keeps happening to the characters, rather than the characters causing stuff to happen.
This part, not so much.
Are you referring to Mutant Enemy, or SFU? I gave up on SFU pretty early on, it may have got better in this regard.
billytea - Jun 16, 2003 5:56:30 am PDT #5104 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Well sure, but this could be the Mutant Enemy mission statement.
Hell, it describes the bulk of the Bible.
Leigh - Jun 16, 2003 6:26:51 am PDT #5105 of 9843
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Well sure, but this could be the Mutant Enemy mission statement.
Yeah, but I think the key difference for me is the part where ME characters are likeable, and thus watching them suffer should be sad, or something. Okay, I lie, it's television and Angel suffers real pretty, so 'sad' isn't the word, but Willow suffering makes me cry like a little girl.
meara - Jun 16, 2003 6:27:23 am PDT #5106 of 9843
But you have the powerful military! And the obsession with family values! And the mad emperor trying to make his horse a senator, I tell you it all fits!
OH dear god! We are!!
And count me as another puzzled non-lover of 6FU. For some reason I keep watching it, hoping I'll like it more, but...it just doesn't move me. I can't explain why, but I do love Lauren Ambrose, so...
Though having watched it did make seeing Sports Night on DVD really weird--I kept thinking of Peter Krause as just waiting to break out into Nate-ness, and he wouldn't!