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'Serenity'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 15, 2003 10:40:05 pm PDT #5087 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I will say that plenty of people whose opinions I respect and value like 6FU (and West Wing, another show I can't stand.)

I tend to put all those strange people who don't like the things I do (for example, say, Lord of the Rings-- nothing personal, Angus-- or the music I like, or whatever) under my grandmother's overarching phrase there's no accounting for folks.

It's at once accepting and dismissive. And it's almost impossible to argue with.


Angus G - Jun 15, 2003 10:44:29 pm PDT #5088 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Scary for you, cool for me, I'd say, Ple.

Am-Chau, yes, although for obvious reasons I prefer the phrase "there's nowt so queer as folk".


Leigh - Jun 15, 2003 11:30:50 pm PDT #5089 of 9843
Nobody

and West Wing, another show I can't stand.

It's makes me sad that the overall tone of the show is so idealistic and fantastical that my ability to suspend disbelief is completely shattered most of the time. Because there's a lot of intelligent humour and I like Aaron Sorkin's way of writing dialogue (apart from his thing with women, I don't know what's up with that), but actually watching an episode is rather gag-inducing esp. in the later seasons.


Kassto - Jun 15, 2003 11:35:35 pm PDT #5090 of 9843
`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'

Now, West Wing -- that started off so well. Never forget that opening episode where El Presidente didn't appear till right at the end, and he entered quoting the Bible while his staffers (Jewish) and the Christian Fundies (Anti-Semites) were having a huge stoush. Was all down hill from there. Can't think why Joss regards it so highly.


Leigh - Jun 15, 2003 11:49:09 pm PDT #5091 of 9843
Nobody

Was all down hill from there. Can't think why Joss regards it so highly.

Well, to be fair, it's crap in a good way, unlike the crap which is simply crap. The production values, the writing--it's not like they're not trying, but I think an heart-warming political drama is possibly the most incongruous-with-reality premise which anyone has ever come up with.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2003 4:24:06 am PDT #5092 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A co-worker of mine can't work out why I watch fantasy -- i.e. Buffy, but he swears by West Wing.

I can't make him understand the irony.


Madrigal Costello - Jun 16, 2003 4:45:04 am PDT #5093 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.

I'm a fellow disliker of SFU and "American Beauty." They're like watching presentations by classmates who tried really really hard, but never quite figured out that Simón Bolivar and Simone de Beauvoir were completely different people. Of course, I'm a "Vets in Practice" addict, which is probably seen as some sort of Baywatch with puppies in the UK.


Angus G - Jun 16, 2003 5:24:45 am PDT #5094 of 9843
Roguish Laird

The English have their own naff vet shows, don't worry about that.


Madrigal Costello - Jun 16, 2003 5:28:16 am PDT #5095 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.

Um, it is a British show. That, or somehow Michigan annexed Leeds after I stopped taking geography. It was more of a how anything from the UK is seen as automatically better, even if it isn't considered much back home.


Angus G - Jun 16, 2003 5:31:34 am PDT #5096 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Oh, right, I getcha.