Now, West Wing -- that started off so well. Never forget that opening episode where El Presidente didn't appear till right at the end, and he entered quoting the Bible while his staffers (Jewish) and the Christian Fundies (Anti-Semites) were having a huge stoush. Was all down hill from there. Can't think why Joss regards it so highly.
I'm a single undead gal trying to make it in the big city. I have to start somewhere and they're evil here. They don't judge. They've got necro-tempered glass. No burning up. A great medical plan, and who needs dental more than us?
Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'
All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American
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Kassto - Jun 15, 2003 11:35:35 pm PDT #5090 of 9843
`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'
Leigh - Jun 15, 2003 11:49:09 pm PDT #5091 of 9843
Nobody
Was all down hill from there. Can't think why Joss regards it so highly.
Well, to be fair, it's crap in a good way, unlike the crap which is simply crap. The production values, the writing--it's not like they're not trying, but I think an heart-warming political drama is possibly the most incongruous-with-reality premise which anyone has ever come up with.
§ ita § - Jun 16, 2003 4:24:06 am PDT #5092 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
A co-worker of mine can't work out why I watch fantasy -- i.e. Buffy, but he swears by West Wing.
I can't make him understand the irony.
Madrigal Costello - Jun 16, 2003 4:45:04 am PDT #5093 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
I'm a fellow disliker of SFU and "American Beauty." They're like watching presentations by classmates who tried really really hard, but never quite figured out that Simón Bolivar and Simone de Beauvoir were completely different people. Of course, I'm a "Vets in Practice" addict, which is probably seen as some sort of Baywatch with puppies in the UK.
Angus G - Jun 16, 2003 5:24:45 am PDT #5094 of 9843
Roguish Laird
The English have their own naff vet shows, don't worry about that.
Madrigal Costello - Jun 16, 2003 5:28:16 am PDT #5095 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
Um, it is a British show. That, or somehow Michigan annexed Leeds after I stopped taking geography. It was more of a how anything from the UK is seen as automatically better, even if it isn't considered much back home.
Angus G - Jun 16, 2003 5:31:34 am PDT #5096 of 9843
Roguish Laird
Oh, right, I getcha.
Tom Scola - Jun 16, 2003 5:35:41 am PDT #5097 of 9843
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
I could never get into SFU, mostly because I seriously hated a couple of the characters, and was indifferent to the rest of them. They're all rather passive; stuff keeps happening to the characters, rather than the characters causing stuff to happen. I figured out pretty early on that the reason the characters exist is so that the writers can torture them.
billytea - Jun 16, 2003 5:35:50 am PDT #5098 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Um, it is a British show. That, or somehow Michigan annexed Leeds after I stopped taking geography. It was more of a how anything from the UK is seen as automatically better, even if it isn't considered much back home.
Suddenly America makes sense. You're Romans! (Romans with Greek architecture, granted.) The Romans had the same deal going on with Greece; all the best literature an' stuff had to come from Greece. All the best kids had to learn Greek and Greek literature, taught to them by Greek slaves of course. Which may not fit quite as well, unless there's a black market in Scouse and Geordie pedagogues that has hitherto escaped my attention. But you have the powerful military! And the obsession with family values! And the mad emperor trying to make his horse a senator, I tell you it all fits!
amych - Jun 16, 2003 5:37:55 am PDT #5099 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Which may not fit quite as well, unless there's a black market in Scouse and Geordie pedagogues that has hitherto escaped my attention.
Well, there was that plan to kidnap Fay. But she managed to find another ticket and make her escape, the clever girl.