Just for a moment, compare As You Were or (your personal watch-from-the-hall M.E. episode here) to any episode of Blossom, Jerry Springer, COPS, Joe Millionaire, Full House, Fastlane, any UPN comedy, or any reality show with celebrity in the title and tell me which you'd rather spend an hour watching? Even if the episode's plot sucks turkey, at least it's got some attempt at clever dialogue with characters that I'd watch even if they spent an hour asleep.

Wait a sec, Wolfram. What about that episode of Blossom where she and Six have to go undercover at the strip club?

Hey, wait...

That was a very special episode.

Okay, Belonging is the one where we see Fred for the first time and Cordy gets the tanning lotion commercial with the sleazy director, and they end up in Pylea. Ooh, and Lorne hits on Angel.

It must've been *really* forgettable.

The beginning of Belonging is really good. Angsty Wes with the stiff upper lip for Gunn.

I hated that whole story line. I thought (hoped) it was going to be about Willow's abuse of power and how she kept using magic because she was so insecure about who she was.

And the return visit to Rak in "Wrecked" was where the story line shifted to bad places.

And Wolfram, your comment is generally fair. But it's also why clunkers like DMP hurt so much more. We know they're capable of so much more. And we identify enough that it hurts when, say, the skies open up and a dozen 747s full of crap land on Buffy.

And Wolfram, your comment is generally fair. But it's also why clunkers like DMP hurt so much more. We know they're capable of so much more. And we identify enough that it hurts when, say, the skies open up and a dozen 747s full of crap land on Buffy.

I totally agree. It's like watching a good friend do something really stupid. Even if lots of people do it too, it hurts to watch your friend do it much worse.

It's like watching a good friend do something really stupid. Even if lots of people do it too, it hurts to watch your friend do it much worse.

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The part of Wrecked that really, truly disgusted me wasn't the Magic Crack Car Crash stuff per se, it was the way Willow was treating Dawn. Agghghghrhrgh. And no, I'm not saying that one character can't treat another character like crap, just that there needs to be more justification for it than "High now!"

Just for a moment, compare [Wrecked] to any episode of Blossom, Jerry Springer, COPS, Joe Millionaire, Full House, Fastlane, any UPN comedy, or any reality show with celebrity in the title and tell me which you'd rather spend an hour watching?

The latter. I can ignore the awful parts of those much more easily, and I don't feel like I'm being betrayed in the process.

just that there needs to be more justification for it than "High now!"

It's a cheap cop out and stupidly innacurate. People are mean drunks but, really, how many people get really belligerent when they're stoned.