A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything.

Wash ,'The Message'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Katie M - Nov 05, 2003 10:39:49 am PST #6468 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Oh, Landok! I vaguely remember liking Landok. I think he was snarky.


Wolfram - Nov 05, 2003 10:41:32 am PST #6469 of 10001
Visilurking

Just for a moment, compare As You Were or (your personal watch-from-the-hall M.E. episode here) to any episode of Blossom, Jerry Springer, COPS, Joe Millionaire, Full House, Fastlane, any UPN comedy, or any reality show with celebrity in the title and tell me which you'd rather spend an hour watching? Even if the episode's plot sucks turkey, at least it's got some attempt at clever dialogue with characters that I'd watch even if they spent an hour asleep.


Phill - Nov 05, 2003 10:42:42 am PST #6470 of 10001
I like to talk about politics with people that agree with me, and I like high class places.

Wait a sec, Wolfram. What about that episode of Blossom where she and Six have to go undercover at the strip club?

Hey, wait...


Wolfram - Nov 05, 2003 10:44:48 am PST #6471 of 10001
Visilurking

That was a very special episode.


Lyra Jane - Nov 05, 2003 10:45:19 am PST #6472 of 10001
Up with the sun

Okay, Belonging is the one where we see Fred for the first time and Cordy gets the tanning lotion commercial with the sleazy director, and they end up in Pylea. Ooh, and Lorne hits on Angel.

It must've been *really* forgettable.


P.M. Marc - Nov 05, 2003 10:46:30 am PST #6473 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The beginning of Belonging is really good. Angsty Wes with the stiff upper lip for Gunn.


Fred Pete - Nov 05, 2003 10:48:21 am PST #6474 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I hated that whole story line. I thought (hoped) it was going to be about Willow's abuse of power and how she kept using magic because she was so insecure about who she was.

And the return visit to Rak in "Wrecked" was where the story line shifted to bad places.

And Wolfram, your comment is generally fair. But it's also why clunkers like DMP hurt so much more. We know they're capable of so much more. And we identify enough that it hurts when, say, the skies open up and a dozen 747s full of crap land on Buffy.


Wolfram - Nov 05, 2003 10:56:28 am PST #6475 of 10001
Visilurking

And Wolfram, your comment is generally fair. But it's also why clunkers like DMP hurt so much more. We know they're capable of so much more. And we identify enough that it hurts when, say, the skies open up and a dozen 747s full of crap land on Buffy.

I totally agree. It's like watching a good friend do something really stupid. Even if lots of people do it too, it hurts to watch your friend do it much worse.


smonster - Nov 05, 2003 10:57:53 am PST #6476 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

It's like watching a good friend do something really stupid. Even if lots of people do it too, it hurts to watch your friend do it much worse.

nods emphatically


RobertH - Nov 05, 2003 11:10:39 am PST #6477 of 10001
Disaffected college student

The part of Wrecked that really, truly disgusted me wasn't the Magic Crack Car Crash stuff per se, it was the way Willow was treating Dawn. Agghghghrhrgh. And no, I'm not saying that one character can't treat another character like crap, just that there needs to be more justification for it than "High now!"

Just for a moment, compare [Wrecked] to any episode of Blossom, Jerry Springer, COPS, Joe Millionaire, Full House, Fastlane, any UPN comedy, or any reality show with celebrity in the title and tell me which you'd rather spend an hour watching?

The latter. I can ignore the awful parts of those much more easily, and I don't feel like I'm being betrayed in the process.