there was also the not drawing enemies to Joyce aspect to consider

Which is what happens to all superheroes when their identities are discovered -- those around them get into much more peril.

You know, I was just sitting around thinking about plans made on Buffy and Angel...Everyone makes fun of the success ratio of Wesely's plans, but how many times has Buffy and the Scoobies had shitty plans that didn't pan out and cost someone their lives? I mean, Buffy has the patience of a 3 year old when it comes to planning things out. I don't even know how many of the group's plans in season finales actually worked. Season 1 didn't work(she died). Season 2 didn't work(Angel was sent to hell when the intentions were to re-ensoul him, miscommunication issues big time), Season 3 worked (mayor defeated in the fashion that they had planned out), Season 4 worked (Adam was defeated by the joining spell), Season 5 didn't work (not really a true plan in tact minus pulling out some stuff from past episodes and the Buffy bot, Plan to stop Glory from opening the portal wasn't stopped in time, Buffy dies), Season 6 Finale didn't really have a plan, which fit with the season as a whole, (although Giles plan for Willow to suck the humanity magic worked, everyone else was all willy nilly), Season 7 (the slayer power giveaway worked). Seems to me she fell for many of a trap along the way through the course of the show.

All in all I don't think that the Sunnydale gang had a very good batting average when it came to plans.

next thing I know I'm back to "Buffy, sweetheart, get a good PR guy, convince the world of the existence of vampires, and take a vacation in Bermuda, willya?"

Here's the thing. A sizable percentage of BuffyEarth seems to be aware of the existence of the otherworldly. Most of the former population of Sunnydale, for example. And W&H's clients. And segments of the U.S. government. And Gunn's old gang. And Aimee Mann.

But the overwhelming majority, however, do not. And at first glance, it would seem to be rectifiable. Willow goes on TV, does a few tricks. Buffy bench-presses a Kia for the cameras. Giles goes on a book tour and gets interviewed by Katie Couric.

But then, it seems that the overwhelming majority of the BuffyEarth population doesn't know about the otherworldly because they don't want to know, and that's harder to rectify. People's powers of denial are quite incredible. How much would be written off immediately as special effects? Or hysteria? Or a sensationalistic plea for publicity?

Certainly, some would believe, but then, there are people who believe some of this stuff in our world. How much money is spent on ouijia boards and tarot cards, astrology and books on the paranormal? How many people believe in ghosts? Or believe in ESP? Or are practicing Wicca? No offense to the Wiccans around, but while for many it's a spiritual journey, no different in some ways than Christianity or Buddhism, there are some--many really-- who are seeking some magical power source to tap into and affect reality. I know there are. I've met 'em.

I'm just saying, this is the supposedly real world we live in, and I can't categorically say myself that none of the above does or doesn't exist. As a journalist, I've come across some truly strange and remarkable people, and they're quite persuasive. Grant Morrison, for example, who may have been talking shit to me, or may well be sincere in his exploration of the weird and magical. Or spirit medium Tatiana Elmanovich, whom I'm quite convinced believed every word she said about the spirit world when I interviewed her, but may well be nuts.

The point being, there's plenty of anectodal evidence in reality to put some room for doubt on whether the occult really exists, but really,most people don't believe it for an instant. One imagines the same would be true in Buffy's world.

And then, there's the opposite problem,which is that does Buffyreally want access to magic to be even more wide spreadthan it already is? Seems like a recipe for chaos.

Buffy has the great advantage of being able to produce hands-on evidence, though. In quantity.

I mean, magic etc. maybe not. But you can clearly get people to the point of believing "bad wild animals." (See also: Initiative, The.) Just spend some time capturing a bunch, then produce them. These are real, flesh-and-blood things, which bleed or ooze or shoot paralyzing snot or explode into flames when exposed to sunlight. Repeatedly, and on demand. I mean, James Randi would get behind this, you know?

I actually can't remember any believable examples of the clued-in folks trying to talk someone else into the existence of the supernatural and being smacked down. No, I take that back - Cordelia in "Halloween." She's on board soon afterwards, though. (Yeah, "Normal Again," whatever, if people can fanwank around the AYW eggs I can choose that as a Really Stupid Point Of Canon.)

I give the writers a pass because that's part of the setup, but it is a pass.

And then, there's the opposite problem,which is that does Buffyreally want access to magic to be even more wide spreadthan it already is? Seems like a recipe for chaos.

Well, she's never worried about it before... though I do take your point.

Buffy has the great advantage of being able to produce hands-on evidence, though. In quantity.

Does she? We live in a world where a large amount of people believe we never actually went to the moon. Most people get their news on television, where images can be altered to show whatever the broadcaster wants. Even if she went on a travelling roadshow with three vampires and a polgara demon in cages, I imagine many, many people would think it's no more real than the Blair Witch Project.

Well, she's never worried about it before... though I do take your point.

Eh, it was a thought, but I'mkindof with you on this one, actually.

We live in a world where a large amount of people believe we never actually went to the moon.

It's worthwhile to note, however, that that conspiracy theory is one of the very few that suggest something didn't happen. The vast majority of conspiracy theories are designed around things they are trying to prove did happen. I mean, in both cases, elaborate wanking is involved, but I'm the autistic twerp of data points.

There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong, Buffy could bend a steel bar chosen by hers in their direct presence, or for that matter stake a vampire right in front of them.

for that matter stake a vampire right in front of them.

Yep, see: Joyce.

There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong

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There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong, Buffy could bend a steel bar chosen by hers in their direct presence, or for that matter stake a vampire right in front of them.

Point. But while I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, I'd like to point out that the Initiative had a large number of "demons" in captivity, and yet many of the soldiers discounted a supernatural explanation. They saw them as werid mutant animals.