There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong
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Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.
'Selfless'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Fred Pete - Oct 28, 2003 10:12:32 am PST #6324 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
victor infante - Oct 28, 2003 10:19:41 am PST #6325 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong, Buffy could bend a steel bar chosen by hers in their direct presence, or for that matter stake a vampire right in front of them.
Point. But while I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, I'd like to point out that the Initiative had a large number of "demons" in captivity, and yet many of the soldiers discounted a supernatural explanation. They saw them as werid mutant animals.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 28, 2003 10:21:40 am PST #6326 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
They didn't manage to capture any of the psychic or spellcasting ones, did they? (Which, I guess, would stand to reason...)
Cindy - Oct 28, 2003 10:22:28 am PST #6327 of 10001
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To add to Victor's point, I don't think we have to look further than The Harvest. The Sunnydale kids saw vampires--saw them bumpy-faced and feeding--saw Buffy fight them, maybe stake them, and the next day, they were calling the vamps a gang.
Nutty - Oct 28, 2003 10:33:57 am PST #6328 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
the Initiative had a large number of "demons" in captivity, and yet many of the soldiers discounted a supernatural explanation. They saw them as werid mutant animals.
But it doesn't matter what you call the bad beasties; it does't matter what people think they are; it matters how they react to the bad beasties. If vampires were on television, at least people would be able to say "yes, that's a ____ (cult, bunch of weirdoes, team of vaccuum-racers), I recognize them and know how to react", rather than what they do now, which is rationalize things such that they never have to react at all.
The Wishverse showed obvious signs that people can react to vampires in a contextually appropriate way. They still pretended they weren't vampires, but they didn't pretend there wasn't a problem, and they took steps accordingly.
Vortex - Oct 28, 2003 11:06:19 am PST #6329 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Really, why does the slayer's identity have to be secret?
Because the Watcher's Council is a bunch of controlling bastards, and if they shut the Slayer off from everyone else, and were the only people that the Slayer had to rely on, they could control her much more easily.
JohnSweden - Oct 28, 2003 11:18:36 am PST #6330 of 10001
I can't even.
Because the Watcher's Council is a bunch of controlling bastards, and if they shut the Slayer off from everyone else, and were the only people that the Slayer had to rely on, they could control her much more easily.
I realize this is the view of a certain portion of the fandom, but it is a very limited view, in my opinion.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 28, 2003 11:22:39 am PST #6331 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
The Watcher's Council might have been fearful that a full public revelation of an enemy that could offer eternal youth and vast physical power to people who joined its side would do more harm than good. Take Billy Fordam and multiply by, say, 50,000.
Micole - Oct 28, 2003 11:52:12 am PST #6332 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.
>There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong
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I briefly went to a place where I could get NASA to send me to the moon by proclaiming I didn't believe in the moon landing. I lied very enthusiastically. It was a happy place.
Vortex - Oct 28, 2003 12:17:07 pm PST #6333 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I realize this is the view of a certain portion of the fandom, but it is a very limited view, in my opinion.
Well, why do you think that the Watcher's Council insisted that the Slayer keep her identity secret?