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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Nutty - Oct 28, 2003 8:51:18 am PST #6321 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

We live in a world where a large amount of people believe we never actually went to the moon.

It's worthwhile to note, however, that that conspiracy theory is one of the very few that suggest something didn't happen. The vast majority of conspiracy theories are designed around things they are trying to prove did happen. I mean, in both cases, elaborate wanking is involved, but I'm the autistic twerp of data points.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 28, 2003 9:06:35 am PST #6322 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong, Buffy could bend a steel bar chosen by hers in their direct presence, or for that matter stake a vampire right in front of them.


DCJensen - Oct 28, 2003 10:09:09 am PST #6323 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

for that matter stake a vampire right in front of them.

Yep, see: Joyce.


Fred Pete - Oct 28, 2003 10:12:32 am PST #6324 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong

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victor infante - Oct 28, 2003 10:19:41 am PST #6325 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

There's also the fact that while NASA can't send its loudest detractors to the moon to prove them wrong, Buffy could bend a steel bar chosen by hers in their direct presence, or for that matter stake a vampire right in front of them.

Point. But while I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, I'd like to point out that the Initiative had a large number of "demons" in captivity, and yet many of the soldiers discounted a supernatural explanation. They saw them as werid mutant animals.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 28, 2003 10:21:40 am PST #6326 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They didn't manage to capture any of the psychic or spellcasting ones, did they? (Which, I guess, would stand to reason...)


Cindy - Oct 28, 2003 10:22:28 am PST #6327 of 10001
Nobody

To add to Victor's point, I don't think we have to look further than The Harvest. The Sunnydale kids saw vampires--saw them bumpy-faced and feeding--saw Buffy fight them, maybe stake them, and the next day, they were calling the vamps a gang.


Nutty - Oct 28, 2003 10:33:57 am PST #6328 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

the Initiative had a large number of "demons" in captivity, and yet many of the soldiers discounted a supernatural explanation. They saw them as werid mutant animals.

But it doesn't matter what you call the bad beasties; it does't matter what people think they are; it matters how they react to the bad beasties. If vampires were on television, at least people would be able to say "yes, that's a ____ (cult, bunch of weirdoes, team of vaccuum-racers), I recognize them and know how to react", rather than what they do now, which is rationalize things such that they never have to react at all.

The Wishverse showed obvious signs that people can react to vampires in a contextually appropriate way. They still pretended they weren't vampires, but they didn't pretend there wasn't a problem, and they took steps accordingly.


Vortex - Oct 28, 2003 11:06:19 am PST #6329 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Really, why does the slayer's identity have to be secret?

Because the Watcher's Council is a bunch of controlling bastards, and if they shut the Slayer off from everyone else, and were the only people that the Slayer had to rely on, they could control her much more easily.


JohnSweden - Oct 28, 2003 11:18:36 am PST #6330 of 10001
I can't even.

Because the Watcher's Council is a bunch of controlling bastards, and if they shut the Slayer off from everyone else, and were the only people that the Slayer had to rely on, they could control her much more easily.

I realize this is the view of a certain portion of the fandom, but it is a very limited view, in my opinion.