Do you know what else has blood in it? Blood.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


P.M. Marc - Oct 27, 2003 9:47:17 am PST #6202 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

(Angel made perfect sense to me last year, but I am willing to admit that a large portion of that is probably that I'm nuttier than a bag of pecans no matter how you say it.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 27, 2003 9:48:44 am PST #6203 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think Angel's been busted down to See Spike Run this year. Note to ME writers: Mindwipe did not affect longtime viewers as it did characters on the show.


P.M. Marc - Oct 27, 2003 9:49:23 am PST #6204 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

(psst... Matt--not a NAFDA thread.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 27, 2003 9:50:40 am PST #6205 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ack! Sorry, forgot it reverted to non-NAFDA.


DebetEsse - Oct 27, 2003 9:55:56 am PST #6206 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

IMO, you can make it make sense, without that much trouble, but there are leaps that you have to make that aren't pointed or nodded to in the text. This is where I normally start my "give us a line, one line, that's all I want" speech. Anyway, this year looks like it's getting back on track, from my perspective.

Umm...Buffy....yeah....there were things from Buffy that I wish they'd mentioned when relevant things were happe...yeah, not gonna work.


sumi - Oct 27, 2003 9:56:14 am PST #6207 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

BTW, does anyone no where I might find screencaps from last night's Alias? (I'm talking about that Sark-Simon scene.)


P.M. Marc - Oct 27, 2003 9:59:45 am PST #6208 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

IMO, you can make it make sense, without that much trouble, but there are leaps that you have to make that aren't pointed or nodded to in the text.

That's the thing: I didn't have to make it make sense. It already *made* sense to me.

From Season 5 BtVS on, I had to make it make sense to make sense of it, and I had to make a lot of S3 AtS make sense to make sense of it, but the majority of S4? It hit my pattern recognition circuits hard.


DebetEsse - Oct 27, 2003 10:07:22 am PST #6209 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Really? That's so weird. Not that you're weird, Plei, except in the good way. Just that people's (and I feel safe saying smart people's, given other discussions of this I've seen on this board) sense-making buttons are so different. I shall have to go back into the archives. Sometime when I don't have shitloads of work to do.

I hear you on a lot of late Buffy, though. I was more thinking 2/3.


Gleebo - Oct 27, 2003 10:09:14 am PST #6210 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

Buffy was continuity porn. Angel's soft core. Alias is a friggin children's book.

If this keeps going down the line Smallville would be a Raffi sing along tape, and Mutant X would be a mobile hanging over a baby's crib.


DavidS - Oct 27, 2003 10:10:38 am PST #6211 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but the majority of S4? It hit my pattern recognition circuits hard.

Yeah? Not me. I found myself at the end of the season feeling like I had to leap over huge plot-holes of illogic to get to the end. The whole "Jasmine planned it" not-technically-a-retcon bugged me. It didn't satisfy my questions about how two vampires conceived, or what exactly happened to Connor at the end, or what was going on with Cordy's ascension. It just didn't make sense to me and the explanations seemed utterly hollow.