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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Vortex - Aug 28, 2003 6:02:27 am PDT #5261 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

quite possibly. someone else mentioned the same thing upthread, I think.


Allyson - Aug 28, 2003 6:10:59 am PDT #5262 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Found this article at Whedonesque. Most Annoying Fans Award

It's poorly written, and misses an opportunity for good snark. Paraphrasing, it claims, "You should see the letters we get, but we're actually not going to give examples. Just believe us."

Honey, I can lend you crazy!mail to back up your claims.


Jeff Mejia - Aug 28, 2003 6:12:56 am PDT #5263 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

My friend just told me she saw an ad on WB that they are going to show Buffy on Sundays from the beginning, is this true?

Matt mentioned that he has seen those ads, over in the Angel thread. I haven't seen them yet, even though I've been taping the WB this past month. I can't find any mention of it on the WB's web site.


Jessica - Aug 28, 2003 6:18:47 am PDT #5264 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't find any mention of it on the WB's web site.

Maybe it's at the discretion of local affiliates?


Vortex - Aug 28, 2003 6:25:04 am PDT #5265 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Maybe it's at the discretion of local affiliates?

I think so.


JohnSweden - Aug 28, 2003 7:21:10 am PDT #5266 of 10001
I can't even.

It's poorly written, and misses an opportunity for good snark. Paraphrasing, it claims, "You should see the letters we get, but we're actually not going to give examples. Just believe us."

Right on. I think they missed out by going with the "these folks are crazy, we snicker here alot" motif rather than a full-blown expose, because even though most of us have an idea of just how crazy, and a couple folks here have a stunningly clear picture of just how crazy, it still would have been pretty hilarious and frightening.


Gleebo - Aug 28, 2003 7:27:54 am PDT #5267 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

That article struggles to find a point and at times even make sense. I certainly wouldn't have put my name at the top of the article. Unless it was to say "I did not write this."


Consuela - Aug 28, 2003 7:28:44 am PDT #5268 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

it still would have been pretty hilarious and frightening.

True. But you know? I'm getting so frelling tired of the "Internet television fans are crazy!" schtick. Sure they are! Five percent of any given fandom is completely over the bend.

But so are five percent of the fans of the Oakland Raiders (who paint their faces and wear pirate clothing to games), and Sherlock Holmes fans, and Civil War re-enacters, and wine enthusiasts, and fashionistas.

And pot shots at media fans are so easy. I find it just a little hypocritical of Teevee.org for them to mock the bulk of their readership that way, because who exactly do they think is reading those columns? It's done for effect.


JohnSweden - Aug 28, 2003 7:47:11 am PDT #5269 of 10001
I can't even.

But so are five percent of the fans of the Oakland Raiders (who paint their faces and wear pirate clothing to games), and Sherlock Holmes fans, and Civil War re-enacters, and wine enthusiasts, and fashionistas.

And pot shots at media fans are so easy. I find it just a little hypocritical of Teevee.org for them to mock the bulk of their readership that way, because who exactly do they think is reading those columns? It's done for effect.

I hear that, and I'm not a big thrower of rocks from inside my glass house. Are Buffy fans crazier than hardcore Trekkies or any other fandom you care to mention? Well, we can't really examine Teevee.org's position because they didn't give it to us. I've seen some crazy fandom behaviour from reasonably upclose, but some of the weirdness that front-line people like Allyson allude to makes me think it would be an interesting comparison, had Teevee.org given us any datapoints to work with, instead of just smugness. I can get that at home. [grin]


Nutty - Aug 28, 2003 8:10:22 am PDT #5270 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Are Buffy fans crazier than hardcore Trekkies or any other fandom you care to mention?

Yeah, and the people who study fandom are practically as bad: I've seen essays about people who literally worship Elvis as a saint interspersed among essays about people who wouldn't be considered quite so strange.

I mean, I know, the salient people are the people who yell the loudest, but I'd like to think that a book including "The Cultural Economy of Fandom" and essays about the hysterical aspects of Beatlemania would try to avoid mashing that together with uncritical chronicles of extremely atypical behavior.