Buffy didn't really die in Prophecy Girl, either -- otherwise Baywatch is chasing Minear in the body count. I never really took Buffy's "death" seriously until I saw all the episodes that treated it as a fact of canon.
Well, if we followed the recipe...should be cake. A demon-violence-free-zone cake.
Lorne ,'Why We Fight'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Noumenon - Aug 21, 2003 11:11:20 pm PDT #5049 of 10001
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti
CaBil - Aug 21, 2003 11:19:17 pm PDT #5050 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.
My understanding is that someone (Fox?) told ME to cut costs - so no more Darla.
My understanding was that she was tempted into a major role in the pilot of Kevin Williamson's 'Glory Days.' Then after doing the pilot, the networks said they needed someone younger in the role.
Vague rememberings, here.
UTTAD - Aug 21, 2003 11:59:16 pm PDT #5051 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
I think that Angel's "death" was real in as much as it was real to Buffy. The emotional impact and all the feelings that brought, were real to her.
For the record, I like S6, a lot. For me S3 is the only one better. Of course S3 had the benefit of Faith and The Mayor.
Cindy - Aug 22, 2003 12:40:04 am PDT #5052 of 10001
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I think that Angel's "death" was real in as much as it was real to Buffy. The emotional impact and all the feelings that brought, were real to her.
Also? Doesn't Angel refer to it as her killing him?
I think, when you're talking about a dead-but-demonically-animated creature, that this conversation is...
THE NEW XANDER'S LIE! Woo hoo!
Rayne - Aug 22, 2003 3:52:38 am PDT #5053 of 10001
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire
Season 7 stopped working for you right away, huh Rayne?
No, I pretty much liked the season through Conversations with Dead People, but after that the season went downhill quickly for me (loved Storyteller though). Part of it was that I was frustrated that so much time was spent on potentials when it was the last season. The other part was that I ended up disliking Buffy (the character), and I never thought that was possible.
Basically I had issues with the show since Buffy and Spike started sleeping together in season 6 because then the show became all about Spike.
§ ita § - Aug 22, 2003 4:24:51 am PDT #5054 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Buffy didn't really die in Prophecy Girl, either
Honestly, I think that is dead. The dead things happened, didn't they? Stopping breathing, normal human dead stuff.
Angel didn't do any of the dead stuff, remaining not dust and all.
esse - Aug 22, 2003 4:47:03 am PDT #5055 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
Honestly, I think that is dead. The dead things happened, didn't they? Stopping breathing, normal human dead stuff.
Besides, she would have had to have died for the new Slayer spell to be activated.
Angel didn't do any of the dead stuff, remaining not dust and all
This.
Allyson - Aug 22, 2003 5:38:46 am PDT #5056 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Rayne, my sistah in Buffy sadness.
Thing is, after Buffy, Spike is probably my all time favorite character...through season 5. When it became They fuck! They fuck! They fuck they fuck they fuck! The Buffy and Sikey Shooooooowwww!, I lost it. Too much of the shiny blonde thang tapped out my like of the character. When it became Spike the Vampire Layer, well, that wasn't the show I loved. It used to be that the world revolved around the slayer, and then the world revolved around the vampire, and the heroes journey turned into a twelve step program.
Also, again, so much potential, too many potentials.
JenP - Aug 22, 2003 9:28:31 am PDT #5057 of 10001
I think that Angel's "death" was real in as much as it was real to Buffy. The emotional impact and all the feelings that brought, were real to her.
This is where I am, too, though I took many more words to express it less clearly. Actual death or not death (because, clearly, he didn't die -- or, well, he did die a long time ago -- but his existence didn't end when Buffy skewered him) isn't as important as the fact that she thought she killed him. So, yes, I agree with ita that she didn't actually kill him -- but that fact doesn't really affect what that moment meant to Buffy in the context of the story. IMO.
P.M. Marc - Aug 22, 2003 9:34:34 am PDT #5058 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
It used to be that the world revolved around the slayer, and then the world revolved around the vampire, and the heroes journey turned into a twelve step program.
Best way of wording it, ever.