I thought from what Ken said there were RL Gorch brothers. Guess not.

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Google bless. They were characters from the Wild Bunch.

Ben Johnson & Warren Oates portray the crazy Gorch Brothers

Zeppo is on FX right now.

Sean K-Loved, loved, loved, what you said about how Buffy didn't do what X-Files did (i.e. continue on w/o any of the original/main characters). I was a huge X-Files fan, and I totally expected it to have a big honkin' finale in the Seventh Season (because, y'know, most of the baddies were dead, Mulder knew what happened to his sister, and the ratings had been sliding down the toilet for the last year or so). But, no, it just went on and on...I was terrified that Buffy was going to do the same thing; I was all set to run screaming from the room if the Ubervamps' only weakness was magnetite, and then Buffy had to go into hiding b/c they were unstoppable and were going to kill her, and Angel gave Connor to a couple from Montana, and Lucy Lawless and Cary Elwes showed up...

You'd have had to have watched X-Files Season 9 to understand all that, and since I think it was just me and five other lifeless wonders watching at the end, no one probably understood that...oh well, I amused myself w/ it.

Couple of other points from a few days ago:

Yeah, having the entire cast of "Angel" show up for "Chosen" might have made sense if both shows weren't going to be back next year-then it would have been cool to see a sort of combined Series Finale for the whole dang Buffyverse. As it was, however, with Angel continuing, it made sense to focus on the BTVS characters. I would've liked to see Wood and Gunn speaking "jive" a la Airplane, though, and more Fred/Willow cuteness! The Series Finale of "Angel" should have everyone in it, IMHO...unless anyone's dead by then.

Oh, and Cindy, the reason I referred to the Buffyverse/Sunnydale as "our world" is just b/c on the whole, it seems to me that it's meant to be our world but w/ all those crazy monsters running around, hence all the pop culture references.

who were the gorch brothers?

I was about to chime in, but Google did my work for me.

Haysus I'm so back on the responses here.

S2 is my favorite as well. I've listed the oogles of reasons why before. I can't think of another series that had a season have so much happen.

What S3 did -- and this is very important in my HO -- is that it was a worthy successor. The series could have lost momentum after it pulled out so many stops the year before, but senior year at Sunnydale High was classic. It brought back Angel without erasing the consequences of Angelus' actions and transgressions in S2. It introduced truly lethal adversaries -- the Mayor, Trick and Faith. And, it set the sign post for the FE.

The only ep of S3 that I soured on was Lovers Walk, because I liked the dynamics of the Cordy-Xander relationship. Still, even that ep had its classic moments.

The only ep of S3 that I soured on was Lovers Walk, because I liked the dynamics of the Cordy-Xander relationship. Still, even that ep had its classic moments.

Love that ep. During the first run, I didn't really get the Cordy/Xander thing, but watching the reruns day after day on FX converted me. I could really see the chemistry there, and the derailment of that relationship in LW and afterwards just breaks me.

My rating would probably be S3,S4,S2,S1,S7,S6.

Based on enjoyment and overall plot, not technical competance.

Agreed about C/X. Her face when she's lying in the hospital...

I miss C/X, too. I keep trying to imagine how things might have been different if she'd still been with Xander when her family lost everything.

I actually went back and looked at some of my first posts on TT, and god was I annoying. I sounded so... thirteen. And I think my sister was rude to Betsy.

Wow, that was all the way back in TT Buffy 1. Your sister Jeri was 9... It's kind of funny.

Holli: Jeri can be Board Baby, if I don't kill her first. Sibling rivalry can be an ugly thing, I know, but what can ya do?

Jim L. Baird: In cyberspace, no one can hear you scream, "Mom! She's touchin' me!"

Y'all and Joss turned me into the moderately social-skilled person I am today.

I can definitely see our influence on your style. But you guys weren't that annoying. I would be charmed if someone like you two dropped into the thread today. (I don't care about protecting young minds.) How did you find Table Talk?

Be fun to sneak the tapes back in time with me and show them to myself then and see what I thought. Except, you know, then I'd be spoiled for all kinds of culturally reference-y things.

You'd be going around saying "5 by 5" for years, waiting for the slang to catch on. You would have a heads-up on John Tesh being the Devil, however.

And I think my sister was rude to Betsy.

God, I remember that.

Re - eps to convert. Out of Sight, Out of Mind . No question. It sums up everything great about the show, needs no intro, and is generally ace.