'Out Of Gas'
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There's a direct line from "the softer side of Sears" to flaying Warren.
Oh yeah. There's a really good fanvid charting this, btw - though it only goes through the begining of S6. It still ends with her on the tomb in "Bargaining" looking dark and powerful. But it could have easily ended with the flaying.
But but but...why didn't she tell Dawn?
Probably didn't want to get Dawn's hopes up in case it failed.
But but but...why didn't she tell Dawn?
What if it went wrong? (x-post)
What if it went wrong?
Right. Because it's also implied in "Bargaining" that Willow was prepared to dispose of a zombie!Buffy if things went awry.
Right. Because it's also implied in "Bargaining" that Willow was prepared to dispose of a zombie!Buffy if things went awry.
Which is something XANDER never considered until Spike hit him with it.
There's a really good fanvid charting this, btw
Transparent. Really fucking good.
What if it went wrong?
Bringing back Joyce went wrong.
She encouraged Dawn to raise her Mom from the dead by herself with no guarantee that it will turn out OK, but then wants to protect her in case Buffy comes back wrong?
I don't buy it. I think she knew Dawn would be against it and had no defense.
Whew! I've never participated in a Willow debate before. Good times.
edited to be less snarky
I don't buy it. I think she knew Dawn would be against it and had no defense.
Me, too.
But it probably would've been more consistent for Oz to leave because Willow did a mind-wipe equivalent thing.
In early S4 Oz talked about thinking Willow was doing too much too fast with her magic -- in HLoD, I think. Though I don't know if that was before SG decided to leave. So I can see how Oz and Willow would have split (had Oz stayed) over her use of magic.
But but but...why didn't she tell Dawn?
What if it went wrong?
Same reason she didn't tell Spike. Both of them would have kept a fucked-up zombie!Buffy around.
Willow seems to have the attitude w/r/t magic of It's Better to Do It and Ask Forgiveness Later Rather Than Ask Permission First.
She encouraged Dawn to raise her Mom from the dead by herself with no guarantee that it will turn out OK, but then wants to protect her in case Buffy comes back wrong?
I don't think she encouraged Dawn to raise her Mom. I think she pushed Dawn towards magic because that's where she dealt (poorly) with her emotional problems.
I don't buy it. I think she knew Dawn would be against it and had no defense.
I don't think Dawn would've been against it. I think Dawn would've easily been persuaded that Buffy's situation was different than her Mom's - because even by Jossiverse standards this was true. Buffy was able to come back because her death was "unnatural" - Dawn, who was miserable without Joyce and Buffy, would've grasped at just such a justification.