I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Jul 18, 2025 8:29:24 am PDT #8322 of 8334
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Posting here because other places will result in family hearing this or people offering solutions or feeling bad around me and yall will just read and nod or eyeroll. Yall know I have a need to get stuff out/down when I’m in accomplish mode. Not quite a to do or done list, but similar

Budget crap is crappy but I did some stuff this week. Background is I am not financially disciplined and have substantial cc debt.

Took out money from low interest heloc to pay off highest interest cc. Saving $700 for the rest of this year.

Stopped monthly ach to ira to pay more each month on cc.

Took out enough from savings and heloc to pay July property taxes rather than putting any of it on cc (as I’ve done past couple of years). Saving approx $150/yr in interest.

Cancelled a streaming service and did more downloading of pics to close Flickr account. Savings will be a whopping $15-25 a month. Still.

I’m bad at this because (similar to weight stuff) it is slow progress. I like completing things, marking things off. So I’m making goals that I can mark complete, like close out highest card. Next month will be cancelling a card.

Thanks for the space to brain dump.


-t - Jul 18, 2025 8:44:54 am PDT #8323 of 8334
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Financial discipline is hard to stick to and painful if you are successful. I hate that for all of us. But go you taking charge of what you can do!


msbelle - Jul 18, 2025 9:00:52 am PDT #8324 of 8334
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

And I just set up an auto payment of what I had been sending to ira to one of the cc.

Enough of that for the day.


Laura - Jul 18, 2025 9:02:59 am PDT #8325 of 8334
Our wings are not tired.

Gold stars, msbelle. I am very neglectful of that aspect of adulting.


meara - Jul 18, 2025 9:13:29 am PDT #8326 of 8334

I have often thought of financial discipline and weight/calories as similar. And just how some folks have no trouble spending less than their means without even trying, while others have to budget carefully, and others can’t seem to not spend, just like eating. And some have more calories to spend (because their bigger or job is more active or whatever) or just don’t like to eat as much, etc. As someone who always overspent my calories but not my budget it fascinated me.


-t - Jul 18, 2025 9:22:57 am PDT #8327 of 8334
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

They do feel similar, meara! And both have completely unwarranted values of virtue and shame attached to them. And once you find yourself in a hole, whether yo dug it yourself or not, it is really hard to climb out of


meara - Jul 18, 2025 9:31:33 am PDT #8328 of 8334

Absolutely! If you get in a hole of debt and there’s interest or you get in a hole of weight and it makes it harder to work out or the insulin resistance makes you want more sugar or whatever, you’re in a hole!


sj - Jul 18, 2025 9:33:06 am PDT #8329 of 8334
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

The concert was so much fun! Cyndi Lauper was so energetic despite the fact that she was completely melting in the heat. I got a ton of compliments on my make up and outfit. Some were even while I was seated with my crutches hidden. So, I couldn’t even tell myself they were just being nice to the disabled lady. I didn’t realize how often I dismissed compliments I that way until I couldn’t last night and my brain short circuited a bit. Probably something to talk about with my therapist next week.


JenP - Jul 18, 2025 10:02:44 am PDT #8330 of 8334

I feel that, msbelle.

I just redid our CC payoff schedule to be a bit more realistic while I'm still unemployed. I had a really aggressive plan, but when I did the budget again in detail, it was a pipe dream.

It sucks that you actually have to wait for the money to come in before you can pay them off again. I did pay off two last month, though, so we're on the road. One was low balance, and one was medium balance, so... I'll take the W.

Nowadays we are used to much more disciplined spending after our sobering stretch of mutual unemployment, which discipline is good and much needed. I mean I track and budget it -- DH is grateful and will ask before he spends anything of significance.

The thing that has helped us most is the grocery and dining out budget. Man, that gets out of control fast up in here if we don't pay attention. But also, there are a lot of "treat yourself" extras that had become pretty routine that we went cold turkey on and mostly don't miss much, so it's good. Maybe now they'll actually go back to being occasional treats that feel like treats rather than a lifestyle to which we had grown accustomed but really shouldn't have. Ahem.

It'll take us a year and a half of real focus before I feel secure again on the debt, savings, and retirement-building front again, though. And "secure" is a relative term which assumes he remains employed and I find something soon and the country doesn't implode entirely. Oof. I think I just typed myself into an anxiety spiral. Breathe in, breathe out...


JenP - Jul 18, 2025 10:03:56 am PDT #8331 of 8334

Cereal:

Yay, sj! I'm so glad you had so much fun and received the well-deserved compliments -- and took them for such! That's awesome. I love her.