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Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Sep 28, 2026 7:16:10 am PDT #14121 of 14147
Where do you come from? Where do you go? What is your scene, baby? We just gotta know.

Not a very good weekend for me.

Since COVID I’ve been getting more and more introverted, and it’s only gotten worse this year. So I scheduled a series of events this fall to try to force myself out of the apartment.

On Saturday, I went to the NY Art Book Fair, which is a very crowded event. I went, walked around, bought a few books, and I did my best to try to control my anxiety. I probably stayed there a little too long.

Afterwards, I went to my regular bar to try to decompress. Back in the day, if you go to a bar in NYC at 4–5pm on a Saturday, it would always be deserted. The bars wouldn’t get crowded until after 9. You could set your watch by it.

But for Gen Z? Apparently, 5pm on a Saturday is prime time for them. The bar was absolutely slammed. And loud. So no introvert time at the bar for me.

So Sunday, I ended up not leaving my apartment at all. Maybe my plan to force myself to go out more is backfiring? I still have so much residual anxiety this morning.

Wednesday, I have a bookbinding class scheduled. It should be a lot more lowkey. Hopefully, my anxiety will have dissipated, at least a little. Friday, another book event, also hopefully a lot more lowkey.


-t - Sep 28, 2026 8:30:08 am PDT #14122 of 14147
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I’m sorry, Tom. Making an effort to be social and having it turn out to be too much (especially when it’s an environment you expect to be one way and it is for some reason another) is like compound interest ime


DavidS - Sep 28, 2026 9:45:28 am PDT #14123 of 14147
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's tough, Tom. Points for putting yourself out there though!

Maybe go to events where you know it's going to be a manageable size. Like your bookbinding class.

Where you have more control over the environment. Or just plan to meet with one person outside where you can wander together.

But I admire that you recognized a problem and pushed out of your comfort zone to address it. Even if it was too much, the impulse is correct.


-t - Sep 28, 2026 9:49:54 am PDT #14124 of 14147
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Meant to say, hope the book-related things are enjoyable!


-t - Sep 28, 2026 12:37:02 pm PDT #14125 of 14147
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I do not remember now how we got onto the subject, but my dad just told me that some guy he used to deliver the Oakland Tribune to when he was 12 years old still owes him $2.80. I don't think he's ever seen Better Off Dead or would particularly enjoy it, but I am finding that hilarious!


DebetEsse - Sep 28, 2026 12:45:18 pm PDT #14126 of 14147
Woe to the fucking wicked.

So, I, like, pretty abruptly quit my job.

I made my 10 years with the state and was going to do home health for a little more flexibility, but then DH got laid off, and then I was working full time hours plus paperwork in the evening, but due to various bullshit, getting paid less than I would working full time at the gas station down the street, plus not being able to leave work at work.

I get up to 2 weeks of Goblin Mode before I need to get my shit together.

So, go team "Not Really Okay At All"?


-t - Sep 28, 2026 12:57:11 pm PDT #14127 of 14147
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh my, Debet! Goblin Mode definitely sounds warranted. I'm so sorry you got put in that position.


Atropa - Sep 28, 2026 1:38:28 pm PDT #14128 of 14147
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oof, Tom and Debet. I want the universe to stop messing around with Buffistas. I have a list of people that should have bad things happen to them, where can I submit that?


Jessica - Sep 28, 2026 3:33:00 pm PDT #14129 of 14147
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Would it help anyone at all to know that a new penguin species was discovered recently?


-t - Sep 28, 2026 3:43:16 pm PDT #14130 of 14147
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, wow! I had no idea there was penguin species controversy, I feel so enriched!