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Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Mar 15, 2013 8:33:47 am PDT #14878 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Should we celebrate this change of heart or what?

I'm glad he accepts his son; not all parents of gay children do the same. On the face of it, I like that he was willing to examine his long-held beliefs, and change them. But I'll be interested to see if his voting/policy decisions change after this.


Jesse - Mar 15, 2013 8:34:39 am PDT #14879 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If I was just a little more of a curmudgeon I'd write a letter to the editor.

You should totally write a letter to the editor! What better task for when you're bored at work?

Should we celebrate this change of heart or what?

I sort of feel the same way I did about the pope -- I guess that's better than it could have been, but not great. I saw a great comment on tumblr along the lines of, "So now we just need them to have a relative who works hard and is still poor."


askye - Mar 15, 2013 8:39:20 am PDT #14880 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

I think we should wait and see. I want to be positive and say that it took him a while to re examine his beliefs and to come to support gay marriage and not think he put it off because of political reasons.

Although this could hurt him politically and he could have just kept silent. Or he could have continued to oppose gay marriage.


Consuela - Mar 15, 2013 8:40:11 am PDT #14881 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Should we celebrate this change of heart or what?

As someone I saw on Twitter just said, "Great! Now we just need a Republican legislator to realize that his daughter is a woman."

On a more serious note, I do think it's remarkably petty and parochial to only approve equal treatment when a member of your own family is being oppressed. Better than nothing, but it's not exactly an example of great moral courage on his part.


-t - Mar 15, 2013 8:49:14 am PDT #14882 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

You should totally write a letter to the editor! What better task for when you're bored at work?

That is true, but I'm afraid that if I do that they'll start delivering their paper to me again, and that's a hassle I don't need.


Steph L. - Mar 15, 2013 8:50:05 am PDT #14883 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I do think it's remarkably petty and parochial to only approve equal treatment when a member of your own family is being oppressed.

See, people keep saying this, and then I feel like an asshole for being glad that he's supporting his son. I don't think he's suddenly become an awesome politician, so if the question is about him as a Senator, well, his record is shitty, and I await future decisions to see if this makes any difference.

But I think it's fantastic that he supports his son.

I guess I'm focusing on the wrong thing. Oh well.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 15, 2013 8:55:05 am PDT #14884 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It may be great for him as a person to be supportive of his son; however, unless that directly impacts how he votes from this point onward I feel no obligation to extend him professional respect.


Lee - Mar 15, 2013 8:55:21 am PDT #14885 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Dear co-workers, if you can't figure out what a document refers to because you think the information on it is incomplete, why do you think sending me just one piece of information from the whole document will be enough to let me figure it out?


tommyrot - Mar 15, 2013 8:55:40 am PDT #14886 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

This kind of reminds me of people who lose their faith in God because a loved one dies unexpectedly. People's loved ones die unexpectedly all the time, so it seems weird to me when it only affects people's faith when it happens to them.


Consuela - Mar 15, 2013 8:57:52 am PDT #14887 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Steph, you're totally correct that he should be supporting his son. But you know, that's like, the baseline. That should be expected. I shouldn't have to give the guy a cookie for supporting his son. He's his son, after all.

Supporting your gay son should not be worthy of comment, you know?

In other news, I read this amazing story about the artifacts that people leave at the Wall in DC: [link]