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Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Mar 15, 2013 8:57:52 am PDT #14887 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Steph, you're totally correct that he should be supporting his son. But you know, that's like, the baseline. That should be expected. I shouldn't have to give the guy a cookie for supporting his son. He's his son, after all.

Supporting your gay son should not be worthy of comment, you know?

In other news, I read this amazing story about the artifacts that people leave at the Wall in DC: [link]


Jesse - Mar 15, 2013 9:05:00 am PDT #14888 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I love my dead gay son!


Steph L. - Mar 15, 2013 9:07:13 am PDT #14889 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Steph, you're totally correct that he should be supporting his son. But you know, that's like, the baseline. That should be expected. I shouldn't have to give the guy a cookie for supporting his son. He's his son, after all.

Yeah, I don't think he deserves a cookie, because it IS the baseline. But he was shitty before, and changed his mind, so that makes me glad. I feel like I should be wanting to wave a pitchfork at him.

Gah. This makes me sound like I think he's an awesome dude and fantastic politician, when that's not what I mean. I just mean, when someone was shitty before and genuinely changes their mind, I think that's a great thing.

Okay, I'm going to stop posting about this, because it sounds like I'm all Yay Homophobe Woo!, when I'm not.


Jesse - Mar 15, 2013 9:08:20 am PDT #14890 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Not at all, Steph, you're right.


Jessica - Mar 15, 2013 9:09:12 am PDT #14891 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My feeling is this is great news for his next Thanksgiving, but he wasn't elected to Congress to represent the interests of his immediate family. Show me the voting record.


Scrappy - Mar 15, 2013 9:09:35 am PDT #14892 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I'm with you, Teppy. I am glad he changed his mind and is public about it, because that's a plus, but the fact he only changed because it's his son is problematic. So I'm 100% glad/disapproving.


Jessica - Mar 15, 2013 9:11:24 am PDT #14893 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

This politician, on the other hand, I have nothing but positive feelings for.


Trudy Booth - Mar 15, 2013 9:11:27 am PDT #14894 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I agree that it is baseline... but the bad options are SO wretched and so frequent that giving props for doing the plain ol' right thing is worth it society-wise. Some other person somewhere is going to be thiiiis much better to their kid or to people in general because someone they respect took this stand. He's famous, so potentially a lot of other persons.

It's like when Tommy Gabel became Laura Jane Grace. For a fair number of people that was their first "personal" experience with a gender transition. They didn't have to be particularly malicious to be in the position of having a lot to learn. They're better people for it now. Their reaction the next time they encounter someone trans-gendered is going to be better.


Steph L. - Mar 15, 2013 9:12:14 am PDT #14895 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Not at all, Steph, you're right.

Eh, I've been feeling like I've been having the wrong reactions all week, so this just magnifies it.


Jesse - Mar 15, 2013 9:15:51 am PDT #14896 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This politician, on the other hand, I have nothing but positive feelings for.

Holy cow.