Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Mar 13, 2013 11:26:09 am PDT #14683 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Given his truly vile and vicious statements about people like me and families like mine, call me Not a Fan. If he decides to focus on issues like pedophile scandals and poverty -- and leaves people like me and families like mine alone -- I reserve the right to reconsider. But I'm not holding my breath.


Typo Boy - Mar 13, 2013 11:30:26 am PDT #14684 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Noise, a little digging confirmed what you said:

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This new Pope specifically helped hide political prisoners from human rights investigators so they could stay "disappeared". I thought I was just making a possibly overly cynical comment, but it appears you can't be too cynical.


meara - Mar 13, 2013 11:32:33 am PDT #14685 of 30001

According to that bastion of Catholic knowledge, The Exorcist, the Jesuits also drink a lot.
This has also been my experience. Jesuits roll deep.

Yes. Rumor/campus legend had it that one year over spring or Easter break, there was an informal race to see which dorm would have the most beer/wine/liquor in the recycling at the end of break, and the Jesuit residence won. (Georgetown is a Jesuit school, as is Marquette and Gonzaga)


le nubian - Mar 13, 2013 11:35:54 am PDT #14686 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio's name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment

From Typo's link.


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 11:38:02 am PDT #14687 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Also a Presbyterian, so I could be wildly wrong

::does seekrit Presbyterian handshake::

::it involves sitting as far back in the church as you can and using juice for communion::

::and isn't actually secret because a the 56th General Assembly amended the Book of Order (with language determined by a committee assembled and charged by the 55th General Assmebly) affirming that henceforth any handshakes would both be openly practiced and optional::


§ ita § - Mar 13, 2013 11:43:43 am PDT #14688 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Deities, grant me patience and grace and help me to not explode. Back to battling the developer, and...sometimes templates don't apply. I am sufficiently furious that I would love to storm out of the building, but too many deadlines.


Ginger - Mar 13, 2013 11:49:58 am PDT #14689 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

::it involves sitting as far back in the church as you can and using juice for communion::

And being debtors rather than trespassers.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 13, 2013 11:53:11 am PDT #14690 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

According to that bastion of Catholic knowledge, The Exorcist, the Jesuits also drink a lot.

And this differs from clergy of the other orders of Catholicism in what way?


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 12:17:33 pm PDT #14691 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And being debtors rather than trespassers

That's a big one.


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 12:18:51 pm PDT #14692 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

OK, so does EVERY priest belong to an order? Or are there radical (in the chemical if not behavioral) sense?