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Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 11:38:02 am PDT #14687 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Also a Presbyterian, so I could be wildly wrong

::does seekrit Presbyterian handshake::

::it involves sitting as far back in the church as you can and using juice for communion::

::and isn't actually secret because a the 56th General Assembly amended the Book of Order (with language determined by a committee assembled and charged by the 55th General Assmebly) affirming that henceforth any handshakes would both be openly practiced and optional::

§ ita § - Mar 13, 2013 11:43:43 am PDT #14688 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Deities, grant me patience and grace and help me to not explode. Back to battling the developer, and...sometimes templates don't apply. I am sufficiently furious that I would love to storm out of the building, but too many deadlines.

Ginger - Mar 13, 2013 11:49:58 am PDT #14689 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

::it involves sitting as far back in the church as you can and using juice for communion::

And being debtors rather than trespassers.

Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 13, 2013 11:53:11 am PDT #14690 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

According to that bastion of Catholic knowledge, The Exorcist, the Jesuits also drink a lot.

And this differs from clergy of the other orders of Catholicism in what way?

Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 12:17:33 pm PDT #14691 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And being debtors rather than trespassers

That's a big one.

Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 12:18:51 pm PDT #14692 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

OK, so does EVERY priest belong to an order? Or are there radical (in the chemical if not behavioral) sense?

Maria - Mar 13, 2013 12:25:18 pm PDT #14693 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

A priest either belongs to an order or is considered a diocesan priest. A diocese is a geographical area named after the major city within its confines. Larger dioceses are called arch-dioceses, so for example you have the Diocese of Harrisburg and the Archdiocese of New York. Diocesan priests usually come from a church within the diocese and are educated at seminaries at diocesan expense. Once they are ordained, they come back to the diocese to become an assistant pastor at a church.

Priests who belong to an order go where the order tells them to go, which could be the jungles of Brazil or the inner city. Geography plays a limited role.

Sheryl - Mar 13, 2013 12:28:52 pm PDT #14694 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

As far as the new Pope goes, "Not my damn religion, monkey boy".(Which is to say, all this discussion of orders and such goes way over my head.)

Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 12:35:32 pm PDT #14695 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Excellent! Thank you!

So they're a little like Orcas!

(I just learned about Transient and Resident populations of Orcas. Turns out whales? Sorta racist. Who knew?!? I'll come up with any excuse to talk about it. Transient and Resident Orca populations like carrots! Is billytea still here?)

So did prior popes tend to be Diocesan? Or some other order? (Though I would guess that Diocesan priests are less... politically ambitious?)

Connie Neil - Mar 13, 2013 12:36:20 pm PDT #14696 of 30001
brillig

Thank you, Maria, for explaining that. I guess if a diocesan priest felt the call to an order, he could join?

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