::it involves sitting as far back in the church as you can and using juice for communion::
And being debtors rather than trespassers.
Buffy: How was school today? Dawn: The usual. A big square building filled with boredom and despair.
Buffy: Just how I remember it.
'The Killer In Me'
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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Ginger - Mar 13, 2013 11:49:58 am PDT #14689 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 13, 2013 11:53:11 am PDT #14690 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
According to that bastion of Catholic knowledge, The Exorcist, the Jesuits also drink a lot.
And this differs from clergy of the other orders of Catholicism in what way?
Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 12:17:33 pm PDT #14691 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
And being debtors rather than trespassers
That's a big one.
Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 12:18:51 pm PDT #14692 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
OK, so does EVERY priest belong to an order? Or are there radical (in the chemical if not behavioral) sense?
Maria - Mar 13, 2013 12:25:18 pm PDT #14693 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
A priest either belongs to an order or is considered a diocesan priest. A diocese is a geographical area named after the major city within its confines. Larger dioceses are called arch-dioceses, so for example you have the Diocese of Harrisburg and the Archdiocese of New York. Diocesan priests usually come from a church within the diocese and are educated at seminaries at diocesan expense. Once they are ordained, they come back to the diocese to become an assistant pastor at a church.
Priests who belong to an order go where the order tells them to go, which could be the jungles of Brazil or the inner city. Geography plays a limited role.
Sheryl - Mar 13, 2013 12:28:52 pm PDT #14694 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Timelies all!
As far as the new Pope goes, "Not my damn religion, monkey boy".(Which is to say, all this discussion of orders and such goes way over my head.)
Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 12:35:32 pm PDT #14695 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Excellent! Thank you!
So they're a little like Orcas!
(I just learned about Transient and Resident populations of Orcas. Turns out whales? Sorta racist. Who knew?!? I'll come up with any excuse to talk about it. Transient and Resident Orca populations like carrots! Is billytea still here?)
So did prior popes tend to be Diocesan? Or some other order? (Though I would guess that Diocesan priests are less... politically ambitious?)
Connie Neil - Mar 13, 2013 12:36:20 pm PDT #14696 of 30001
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Thank you, Maria, for explaining that. I guess if a diocesan priest felt the call to an order, he could join?
EpicTangent - Mar 13, 2013 12:39:56 pm PDT #14697 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty
One thing I noticed in the NCR article that Steph linked was the thing about him ministering to AIDS patients. 'Cuz, y'know, if you believe in strict interpretation (as he presumably does) of the Bible, it says what it says (re homosexuality, women), but it also says "judge not". So, assuming it wasn't just a publicity stunt or something, at least he's walking that part of the talk as well.
t Non-Denominational, but raised Catholic
Maria - Mar 13, 2013 12:44:37 pm PDT #14698 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
Trudy, it depends. While they didn't belong to an order, many were more scholarly than pastoral. But on the whole, it's fair to say that most came up through a diocese. Diocesan priests are just as ambitious. There's a hierarchy and they want to move up just like anyone else.
Connie, there would be some wrangling, but yes. Many orders (like the Jesuits) look for promising seminarians and young priests and try to poach them. Just think of it like job recruiters. The Catholic Church, after all, is just as much a corporation as it is a church.