I hope you don't think that I just come over for the spells and everything. I mean, I really like just talking and hanging out with you and stuff.

Willow ,'First Date'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Nov 28, 2011 12:32:50 pm PST #8889 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I know a smart early 20s woman (I am being all "make her unidentifiable on the internet" but if you know me, you likely know who she is) who does actually feel that pornography is cheating and thus adultery in marriage. I don't agree with her theologically, but I can see how she rationally and calmly came to her decision. And since she's upfront about it with men she dates, fair enough.

I've been watching MST3K episodes, so I'm filtering everything through an obscure and disquieting lens.

As is right and proper.

Awesome maintenance dude just stopped by and my light / ceiling fan contraption needs to be replaced - but it's not dangerous that the light flicks on then off, so until a new one comes in tomorrow or Wed, it's Studio 54 strobetastic here. Until I get bored. So maybe 90 seconds of strobetastic and then I use other lights that actually stay on.

Now I can actually nap. It might mess up my sleep but, gosh, I want a nap. It certainly can't make me less productive that not.


Hil R. - Nov 28, 2011 12:32:57 pm PST #8890 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Question: do most people consider pornography use a form of infidelity? I don't see it that way, but if it's a commonly held belief, I don't want to quash her.

I've seen plenty of letters to advice columns written by women who feel that way.

And, on another note, I saw a woman in the grocery store, with a teenage boy, maybe 14 or so, who I'm pretty sure was her son. The mother was wearing a "Coach Paterno: Just one thing: Thank You" shirt.


Hil R. - Nov 28, 2011 12:35:33 pm PST #8891 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I need, today, if you can find it, pix of: Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Michele Bachmann, Rudy Guiliani, Rick Santorum, GHW Bush, Dan Quayle, Walter Mondale and.or Nelson Rockefeller drinking booze.

I'm pretty certain that no such pictures of Romney exist, since Mormons don't drink.


Cass - Nov 28, 2011 12:35:58 pm PST #8892 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I think the idea that pornography is adultery is an incredibly sheltered one

I will also say that, yes, it's sheltered. But, in what I've seen of the world, so is no sex until marriage.

So I see it is sheltered and unlikely but I can accept it is what some people put value into as well.


Consuela - Nov 28, 2011 12:41:30 pm PST #8893 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

So I followed one of ita's t shirt links this morning and now I have been kicked off my workstation for a malware infestation. Teefury is bad, apparently...


Sheryl - Nov 28, 2011 12:45:50 pm PST #8894 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Weather is weird again. 70 F after Thanksgiving? When it was in the 50s last week? I just don't know...


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2011 12:48:59 pm PST #8895 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But, in what I've seen of the world, so is no sex until marriage.

However, I think no sex until marriage is okay as long as it's really only your penis or vagina it's important about. Porn as adultery is usually about someone else's "sex" life. But, if it's about your relationship, and it's a shared understanding, it's all good. It's when it's leveraged against an unwilling external party that I get pissy.

I wish I'd had lunch.

I wish my lien release had actually needed to be a lien release. Because then it would be resolved in 2-3 days, instead of the projected 2-3 weeks.

eta:

Teefury is bad, apparently...

Seriously? That's wack, man.


Consuela - Nov 28, 2011 12:51:48 pm PST #8896 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Well, the teefury page never loaded and I had to use the task manager to close IE, and then Outlook stopped working...


Burrell - Nov 28, 2011 12:51:51 pm PST #8897 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Thanks all. I was just surprised by it and wondered if they had gone and changed the definition of infidelity on me. Glad to see that it was a case of student kinda right, me kinda right.


Cass - Nov 28, 2011 12:54:53 pm PST #8898 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

However, I think no sex until marriage is okay as long as it's really only your penis or vagina it's important about. Porn as adultery is usually about someone else's "sex" life. But, if it's about your relationship, and it's a shared understanding, it's all good. It's when it's leveraged against an unwilling external party that I get pissy.

I hadn't thought of it from exactly that perspective. I think the porn issue is, if we're honest, about the masturbation assumed to follow or accompany the porn. Or the intentional viewing of a nekkid person one isn't supposed to be wanting to look at. It's not that porn exists, it is the utilization. Orgasms all unsanctioned by the relationship or church or whatever.